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media.com welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another fantastic fun and informative episode of the convergence enigma with josh and stephan i am your host stephan gearhart and i am joined as always by the trying to blame covid for his balding mr josh rutledge what up my friend you know i'm doing fantastic until i realized i was balding on my crown so if keeps would like to contact us about doing you know a promo with them that'd be fantastic you know they they always say it's your mother's father right that's how you're supposed to do

genetically it's your eyes but uh but my my mom's dad had a full head of hair until a day he died so i don't know yeah my my my mom's dad full head of hair my dad and his dad both bald as i'll get out my brother bald as i'll get up so yeah i'm wrong here yeah tommy had tommy had coveted before before it was coveted before it was coveted yeah he had coveted what's eight years ago years ago i'm just kidding he's probably listening to this episode so uh just joking he's got a full head of skin so anyways yeah um yeah so that's a new thing to be you know so it's it's funny because

i deal with stress really well so i don't have a lot of gray hair like my my younger brother who's uh 18 months younger than me has way more gray hair than i do he really does but uh but apparently I'm going to be the one that, that balls before he does. So. Awesome. Well, Josh, we got a really special episode today. Once you tell everybody about, uh, what, uh, you want to talk about what's been going on or talk about what we're going to

be talking about? Uh, so I'll just say that for this episode, we're going to talk about the UAP hearing that happened, uh, as of this recording, just two days ago. Um, that'd be july 26th yep and uh we're gonna go into some you know thoughts around that hearing uh as well as just uh you know maybe some assumptions or things that i have around

the content that was provided in the way that it was provided but before we get into that there are probably a lot of people are like where'd you guys go you know where what happened to the did you converge and fall into a hole or something or disconverge disconverge discombobulation i don't know but um so i thought maybe it'd be good a good idea to kind of give everybody an update on you know kind of where we have been for the season um where we're going for the rest of the season and what it looks like potentially into next year um so you know i think we first started out with

the season we shifted gears a little bit towards doing a lot of experience or interview we did one live show uh we had you know the great the great shane heard on the call with us was a fantastic episode but we didn't get any uh any crowd involvement and you know i know that there's not you know not oftentimes that you get success right out of the gate you know with your live shows but um we also just didn't feel like maybe that was the right thing for the show right and my work my work schedule changed as well right so we weren't able to do the live time like we wanted

to right and then um secondarily we when we rebranded the podcast from fearscape paranormal podcast to the convergence enigma we did so because we were in this vein of thinking that somehow all of the different phenomena is some is somehow related to each other as you know we shouldn't be looking at it independently as ufos and ghosts and bigfoot we should be looking at it collectively as the entire phenomena and we started looking at um spots you know what what john keel often referred to as windows right where there was these spots where all of these

different phenomena were happening at the same time and is there some sort of linkage that linkage there but with the revision that we made for this season we feel like that was a deviation from the reason why we did the rebranding um and so that's why i think for the rest of this season we're gonna do other than today's episode which is really around the hearing uh we're gonna do more of a focus on those convergences uh looking at kind of those special sites that exist around the u.s and around the world um and looking at all of the phenomena cases that are talked

about for whatever that's you know the specific site is that we're looking at and so i think for the rest of this year it's like maybe two or three more episodes for this season short season um and then into next year hopefully expanding more into some of those convergence areas yep it's going to be pretty awesome um so but let's get cracking let's get talking about this uap hearing it was uh long it was what two and a half hours yeah i mean total total video time was two and a half hours they they kind of uh were all kind of mingling in the beginning uh right as

they kind of about yeah if you're watching the news nation one yeah i think it started around 17 or 18 minutes yeah um and then they kick things off and every not everybody but like six people had to go around and give opening statements uh about why they were there and why this was an important thing and i mean i guess everybody has to do that one person i don't remember who it was but one person took it took it like time to wish their wife happy birthday and all this kind of i was like come on people anyways um by the way happy no i'm just playing

that's a happy birthday to my wife yeah anybody out there from shelby county but yeah i mean and you know we we've got it posted on our website correct the transcript if you wanted to read the thing the entirety or you know go on youtube yep so we've got the youtube link from news nation and then the transcript of the entire thing um that you if you want to read it you can go to theconvergenceenigma.com slash uap um and there's just a blog entry there that has all that detail and um you know one of the things that i didn't

see after i was uh watching uh this two and a half hour long thing uh was any type of you know there's a lot of people breaking it breaking down what all happened but i really wanted to go back and read uh what what people said you know there's probably some some keywords that were tossed around in there that maybe you missed out on in the two and a half hours that you tuned in so that's why i created the transcript and it's like i said it's up on our website but yeah um you know i i uh you know so the so the three witnesses that appeared

in front of this committee hearing um were uh great uh graves uh ryan graves who's been in the media in the past um uh commander uh david uh fravor who's also been you know he he was one of the pilots uh for one of the cases or one of the videos that the tic-tac video that was uh produced back in or is that as the chairman said the tic-tac video the tic-tac video and then they made a whole they made a whole point in like five minute uh tangent talking about how tic-tac is not the same as a tic-tac and then at some point time fravor even said refer to it as a

flying propane tank instead of a tic-tac in case people didn't know what a tic-tac was but um but anyway so you know they then we had garage too then we had grush right so so graves we've heard from before i i want to say even maybe in this type of setting uh flavor i'm pretty sure we've heard from before and you know they've been on the scene for a while but grush is relatively new you know he had the interview that came out from news nation then there was the article from the debrief and then from there a lot of other media outlets have

picked it up and had you know kind of run with his story and um i'll admit when he when he first came forward and i read through the article on the debrief i didn't feel like he really had a lot to add i felt like he was really just rehashing things that we already knew um and you know i looked i looked at him as really like a like a puzzle piece if you will or a chess piece he was just another piece on the board now that they could move around and put up there in the media and such to further the agenda of you know kind of a mass disclosure but after

the hearing on the 26th i i've changed my tune so to speak i i really feel like he does have a lot to offer that that we didn't already have in an official capacity right we don't like the community at large had some assumptions based on people's experiences and eyewitness testimony and such but we didn't have um we didn't have the the concrete evidence or or message so to speak that he did not provide on wednesday so when i say did not provide um several times when i ask questions he would say things like i can't talk about that in a public setting but i can tell you

more in a closed setting or you know the term used with skiff um and so to me when i when i read where when I hear those things, it's almost like an admission of yes, right? It's a, you know, there was, you know, has the government, has the government made contact? GLP-1s are changing weight loss. My sister had amazing. The ideal treatment is.

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he would have just said no right if in any way if he didn't have the knowledge or if he didn't know the answer he would have said no because he did so throughout the testimony and so when you read back through the things that he actually said unofficially my interpretation yes to it's some pretty interesting stuff um in fact in the article that or whatever the transcript that's on our website i went through and i highlighted all the areas where are not highlighted but under underlined all the areas that he was asked questions like this

and gave that answer of you know i can't say it in public um but you know i can talk to you about it behind closed doors and so it's it's very interesting to to go through and look at some of those like so for example um the committee chair uh asked at one point you know what you know mr grush you claim that uh information is being hidden what kind of information do you think was hidden and do you think you should remain hidden so he then said yes i can speak to that very briefly in an unclassified manner but i can give you more uh you know so so obviously

there's a lot of information to be gained here and so a couple times throughout the um you know throughout the hearing uh the representatives apologized to all three saying you know sorry we're asking you these questions over and over again but we need to have them stated as a part of public record in this hearing and so to me i feel like because there was a couple times where um uh i can't ever pronounce her name correctly the person from new york uh asia cortez i can't remember yeah xandria casio cortez cortez thank you just call her aoc aoc but but um

you know she asked this she asked a question of grush of can you give us people places and names are people places and titles or anything and he said you know not not in a public setting then she asked the same question to favor and graves both of which said you know i can't i don't have any of that information basically establishing that grush is the only source that can provide this information right so now i feel like now if congress were to go to whoever's blocking their access and if whoever's blocking their access says you can get it from somewhere

else they can say nope look see we interviewed these three people and grush is the only person who said we can get it from them so so i feel like a lot of that hearing um was also part of the chess game so to speak of of getting to who is the person who can give us the information we need and then once we have that established now we can go take that and say we need this access to move forward yeah it was interesting because like the thing that i liked um was the rep the uh congress men and women that were basically saying we are sick of the lack of transparency

when we represent the people we are the people that are supposed to be governing here you're supposed to be coming to us you work for us we don't work for you and then they were talking about like arrows budget is they can't they're not even allowed to look at the budget right or when somebody talked about the audit they do for the pentagon every year shows about a billion a billion dollars missing every single year whenever they audit the pentagon where does that money go i mean grush even said at one point that um because he talked about when

he was uh talking with i think representative garcia about the um misappropriation of funds and representative garcia said well how does that happen and he said well just it's put on the books for one thing but then it's redirected to one of these programs which supersedes the oversight of congress yep and so you know and i think it's really eye-opening um which which again it tells you i'm about to get conspiracy theorists here but it tells you that the military has more power than congress are actual leaders of the country they are in

more control i i don't know that i agree with that statement i would say that there are individuals within the military that think they have more power than congress but the military and in its like the entirety like some grunt working uh security but i mean that's what i'm saying is like that there are there's all these black budgets and there's all this stuff that congress cannot see means that there's a higher level above congress yeah well and it's it also in throughout the testimony there was

a point where they asked you know Grush who was in control and he you know he said something along the lines of there's a group of individuals

who control the you know the flow of information and he was asked the following question saying you know is this a government and he said both in and out

so it's majestic 12 right or whatever the case yeah i mean it's there's so again it's this idea of you know an illuminati type organization that is somehow you know above the the elites elite so to speak um that is somehow yeah above the civilian leadership right well above everything right yeah or maybe it's like you know jeff bezos is a part of it or something you know like there's some sort of idea that there's some corporate individuals that are also controlling this kind

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uh graves seemed very sincere and making you know he he wants to have some answers to keep his pilots safe um i had not heard about the uh americans for secure Airways, I think is what it's called. I went and looked it up. It does have a website, but you can't really do anything on the website

other than become a member and then it gives you ways to contact your congressperson to let them know that you want

transparency on this topic or whatever. But his organization, I think, also represents not just the military side of the house, but um, civilian pilots in the form of, you know, commercial airlines and things like that. And so he has a lot of, uh, quote unquote, citing information that he's captured through

that organization as well. Um, you know, I think the, uh, uh, there was a, a breakdown potentially in that, uh, towards the end of the hearing, all three individuals were asked if a person in the general public wants to know or wants to file a report what can they do and all three members said there doesn't exist a modality to do so and so sad which is you know there are you know a number of modalities mufon probably being one of the biggest new force you know being a second and then a bunch of others that have popped up across the board so it's

it's disappointing that that at least MUFON or New Fork wasn't named as a location for people to go and file the reports. Especially with MUFON working with the UAP task force. They want the MUFON data. They just don't want to direct people to MUFON. Yeah.

And, you know, I think I saw an interview with Nick Pope and Chrissy Newton on News Nation breaking down the, the, the hearing. And they were talking about, you know, that it almost seems like they're not interested in civilian reports they are only interested in in military reports or or pilots uh commercial pilots well and it's i think it's because there's

some there's some level of um automatic i don't know credential if you will that comes with being a military or commercial pilot in the way that they're trained to identify specific things in the air right your average civilian i mean as as the as the mufon would tell you you know go talk to any of the mufon field investigators or reach out to your straight director they they'll tell you that a majority of the sightings that are reported to them turn out to be you know non anomalous type activity like venus or a satellite or the international space station or whatever

so i mean it's i don't think you're going to find a military or commercial airline pilot that would file a report for venus or the international space station right so there's there's less there's less um what's it you know the sorting sorting the wheat from the chaff right there's less that you have to sort through to get to the good information that you could then go pursue to try to find out what's going on well it's just sad because i mean i think graves is the one that said it that only of all the the military and commercial pilot sightings only

maybe five percent are reported there's 95 percent that go unreported because of taboos or or whatnot that still exist right well and and and i think it's a repercussion right it's in you know and even if even if it's lifted um if it ever reverses right so let's say that it's there's no longer a taboo and so all these people come forward and then at some point in time it's reversed right there's still that fear of it's okay now but will it be okay in a year or five years from now so there's still that risk so that's why i think that you see a lot of excuse me um retired personnel

who are willing to come forward because they don't they don't have anything to lose right um other than maybe getting razzed by uh their fellow service members when they go you know back to experience you know to the next retirees dinner or something right you know that's about the only thing they have to worry about so i did i did find it really interesting uh the question was asked to all three how they got you know how why they decided to to come forward or get involved um both graves and grush said it was kind of a sense of a sense of responsibility a sense of duty

uh to the american people um but framer said that he was pestered by a friend um and after about six times being asked to come you know to say something he finally decided to say something um so it's just you know not that Fravor wouldn't also think about it from a national you know from a a duty perspective I just thought it was funny that you know basically he was okay seeing this thing and never talking about it until somebody bugged the crap out of him long enough that he decided it was worth it not to hear that anymore so yeah so it's it what's super

interesting to me and i would really like to have you talk about what gresh said in his interview and in this because that's the thing that's catching the most waves right now this is the first time i've seen non-ufo people on social media talking about aliens and talking about ufos it's fascinating to me all the people that the friends of ours that we've tried to get to listen to our show and they roll their eyes about are now anxious to listen to our show to see what we have to say about what they saw yeah yeah so i mean you know of course rush came forward when he when he

did and he he basically said you know you know i'm a whistleblower he filed the appropriate uh paperwork within the government to be a whistleblower and he and he came forward and he and he basically said that hey there's all this stuff that's going on crash retrievals um non-human intelligence you know that's the new term now that's the new alien term right it's not alien retro terrestrial anymore because that that's too narrow it's non-human intelligence um but there's all the stuff that you know he talks about in his interview about um biologics

being recovered and tested uh somebody asks him you know human biologics and he says no non-human biologics so there's like an admission there that we have non-human bodies right in in in our in our possession so it's he basically said that he saw all this going on all of it happening outside of government oversight and that's why he you know went the route of becoming a whistleblower and and kind of reporting all this stuff so it's it it it makes you wonder um well i don't i don't maybe it's a moot point but let's say he was in all this thing and it did

have congressional oversight wouldn't we ever know about it right um because that's that that's this whole thing is that it didn't have congressional oversight they need to know about it that's why i came forward um but regardless of of you know if it did or didn't um he came forward he effectively has in my opinion like a skeleton key um to unlock all the doors um and you know i i don't somebody um glp1s are changing weight loss my sister had amazing the ideal treatment is seems like everyone's a glp1 expert these days but when it comes to your

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over classified and he said that you know aside from you know in like a in like a video that shows a uap just just blot out the parts that you know indicate some sort of a sensitive uh equipment or something was used to capture that so we don't expose ourselves to our enemies but but make that video available to people because it's important and they need to know and so you know even even fravor talked about there being an over classification he said you One of the ones that happened on Virginia Beach was taken on a guy's cell phone,

like an iPhone camera, and that was classified above top secret. And he's like, I don't see how that works. I mean, it's an iPhone camera. And he said, I think a lot of this stuff has just been the initial response is over-classify it, make it impossible for people to get to. And

Yeah, I mean, I just You know, again, I think that Grush, like I said Is like a keys to the kingdom Situation If

Congress can get access To the information he has And when I say keys to the kingdom I think it's keys to the kingdom For Congress I don't know if we

The public Will ever, you know it'll take somebody looking through what we have and scrubbing it so that it's you know redacted basically from giving away any of our trade secrets and you know i imagine a you know look at the redacted documents we get from the cia right and everything's everything's all uh blacked out imagine a video you get a uap and and all you can see is the sky streaming but you can't

everything else is blurred out so you know i just i don't know what it's going to translate to but i i really do think that you know i've i've said this to a couple other people this you know we're involved in some weird really weird chess game right now and i i used to think it was like a three-way chess game and that somebody who wants disclosure somebody who doesn't and us the public but i now realize that it's really just a two-way chess game somebody who wants it somebody who does it and the public is just a piece on the board and so bringing these three guys forward

in this hearing um is just a chess move and how it affects us as the other piece on the board will also be a chess move yeah because that's one thing i was gonna say it's a gauge because one thing i've realized from looking at well i've always realized this but now officially seeing it on social media is that again there's no panic but even the general public the non-ufo people we have panic so ingrained in us that we think that panic will happen because of movies that the biggest quote that i saw all over social media is why aren't people talking about aliens

right now which to me says why isn't anybody freaked out about this and everybody if you look at comments are like because we already knew we already knew we already knew we already knew the generations that exist right now even boomers jenna especially gen x and millennials we're like yeah we know we've always known if there is no panic happening and that's what i love about this hearing that it did is it set the gauge for the powers that be to see that no panic has happened with well saying hey there's non-human entities and craft retrieval so nobody's running i still

think though and this is just maybe me being a little a little more conservative in the approach but i still think it's one thing to have someone say there is non-human you know intelligence that is behind or we have the bodies or whatever it's one thing to hear that it's another thing to have them show up in your living room right so and so what signs right or or in in the case of you like we talked about on the astral stew episode in the case of um that show in the 90s where it was like a police officer and he was oh what was it called stuff and come on

the show where there where there's aliens living on earth oh alien nation alien nation right thank you so like you know what i don't know what people's actual reactions would be if all of a sudden they went to the grocery store and there were greys and reptoids and and praying sharing space right no sharing space like i just don't know because because a vast a large population of us still has a problem and i say us as in humans still has a problem accepting other humans so i don't know how accepting we and accepting service animals right yeah are you are you trying

to imply a gray would be a service animal no i'm just saying like humans can't even accept other animals i mean uh other humans and then here's another species and people are like you should not be bringing that dog in here this is walmart this is lowes so i mean yeah it's i think it's a good step forward in that people are not freaking out right um on facebook and other places but i think until until we have a a hearing where there is a member of the galactic federation sitting at the at the table right and and we're like you know how do we know you're legit and he

like you know i don't know somebody beams down a can of you know clear pepsi or something and he's like this bus sorry it was a debacle and um you know like i can tell that happens it's not really going to hold true in people's minds that yes this is legit because like you said many people have the feeling that they knew it already right that they they in their in their gut or whatever their gut feeling is it's all real so nothing new came forward for them so um yeah i mean i it will be interesting to see where it goes you know what what you know what

his next steps look like right um and um it'll also be interesting to see how um how other people in the community who have already kind of been out like lou elizondo and chris mellon if they're given any kind of additional credibility because of grush coming forward Because I feel like Lou has gotten and Chris Mellon have gotten a little bit of some backlash over the last couple of years. And so it'll be really interesting to see if, you know, if any of this helps bolster their position instead of, you know, taking it away. so yep yeah and one of my favorite comments that i've been seeing because of our generation you

know and a little bit younger who grew up listening to you know uh heavy metal and and um new metal and things like that as people are saying oh my god tom was right tom delong because they were all blink 182 fans you know and he's always talked about it and so i've been seen a lot of tom was right and i love that you need to put that on a t-shirt i know and it just makes me it makes me say that lou and chris and and tom and those guys missed an opportunity for more seasons of their show that was on history channel like i think they you know because they

kicked all this stuff off but they could have kept that going and i don't know the the logistics as to why it stopped but it's obviously like it like it did for the uh murder castle guy you know they they were getting too close to the truth so they had to shut them right that's standard history hangar jeff mudgeons yeah what was the hangar hangar 51 or whatever no it is yeah same thing with ufo hunters ufo hunters they got too close and they got canceled yep it's that elite elite group that's telling them no more guys you're getting too close you're gonna take away our

bread and butter so you know what'll be so this is a little bit funny but i one day hopefully in my lifetime if if all this comes to fruition right if like we have a hearing with a member of the galactic federation sitting there talking to us about all the things that they've done for us over the last 2000 years i would love to know the list of things that that we can like we have you know nhi technology to thank for you know like it's probably really dumb things like uh kleenex and lysol right it's or slime yeah slime gack you know or that uh that uh what's that

kinetic sand yeah right yeah stuff like that gas jello shots yeah jello shots um twist off beer caps you know aspartame yeah yeah it's it's probably all the dumb things yep uh it's you know funko pops that's all gray technology that's all it's gotta be because they're small and they got big heads so anyways um so yeah i think i think that is you know raps i obviously i could go line by line of all the things that i underlined on the article but instead i would encourage you the the listener the viewer if you're watching this on youtube to go to the convergence enigma

dot com slash uap and read it for yourself i'll also we'll have a link to that if you didn't catch it in the five seconds that i read it off to you but um but it's some really interesting stuff and like i said if you if you take some if you take some kind of uh you know free look at things and you say every time he says i'll talk to you about it in a secure location apply that to be a yes he he told us we got a lot of stuff going on um so yeah i uh so anyways that i think that kind of wraps the bridge of the episode of the uh of the hearing

yeah it was two and a half hours but it was a lot of repeated information it was still worth watching grab some popcorn grab a brewski and and check it out watch it with your loved ones uh maybe put it on like one and a half speed or even two speed on yeah remember start if you're watching the news nation one started about 18 minutes 18 minutes yeah um but uh but stefan also uh because we didn't get a chance we we were so excited to get into uh the uap hearing stuff we did not do psychic word of the week we had one prepared for today do you want to take just a

minute and talk and do that real quick sure so uh so yeah uh this is psychic word of the week oh all right so uh flipped uh josh actually just gave me the number 33 and so i pulled it up and uh the uh the words that i came up was uh assumption of god forms assumption of god forms this is from ancient egypt isn't that like a school or something that's in louisville uh assumption high school that's the the that's the short version the long version is assumption of god forms high school so uh but it says to uh psychically merge one's consciousness with

an etheric world intelligence called gods at the time um in an animal form that could be detected by physical eyes to function for a time in the new form and then return to one's normal consciousness for normal living this is also goes into shape changing dimension shifting um i also think that it is very much like a familiar um which is familiar oh so is so it's like you you leave your physical body you go live in this other no you merge your consciousness merge your consciousness with a god in an animal form okay so you're both in the animal form i think so okay because you can

see it with with physical eyes so you're merging your consciousness with jesus and you're becoming a dolphin that feels like the right selection by the way not not at all would i choose osiris and a jackal or osiris and a whale it's got to be jesus and a dolphin that yep jesus and a dolphin the best cocktail recipe right there or you can do thor and an ant yeah yeah or you could do what's another god you could do uh zeus you could do zeus and the jersey devil you ain't doing zeus and the jersey devil you're not you're not an animal

i don't know sometimes he acts like one he's a cryptid cryptids are are multifaceted sometimes he acts like an animal i walked in your kitchen one day and he was eating cereal out of the sink he does he doesn't even use a spoon he just bops he bops like bops for apples yeah just pours it in there and just bought yeah it's weird i didn't know his tongue was that long but i knew things every day so anyways yeah so that's our psychic word of the week um i did want to also real quick just take an opportunity to remind people to check out our other show

astral stew um this does come out monthly um there's not a you know there's not as much research that goes into it as uh the convergence enigma which is why we have such a short season this year um but uh a lot of incredible knowledge goes into astral stew the things that we talk about on great discussions yeah just it's it's it's uh it's always a good time every single time we do it so yeah if you haven't listened or watched yet get on our youtube page the convergence or i mean um another realm media and check out the astral stew there or just look up

astral stew on spotify or itunes um it is available as podcast form as well and it's one of my favorite things in the whole wide world so it's so much fun so and um if you uh we still have a lot of great t-shirts and things if you ever interested in buying we're all you know i'm out there adding things every now and then um and you can go to the convergence enigma.com store or you just go to our website and click on store at the top and get to the page that way so yep but other than that josh let's go ahead and get out of here man this has been uh it's been real it's been fun and

it has been real fun yeah it has been real fun yeah has been real fun um so stay tuned like we said we got a couple more episodes coming out this year uh be on the lookout for those um some convergences that we're going to be talking about it's going to be a lot of fun but we got to get out of here so thank you guys so much for tuning in and listening and or viewing the convergence enigma with josh and stefan this has been stefan with a reminder to keep your eyes on the skies especially now yeah and this is drush i mean the the truth is now literally the truth

is now literally literally literally literally anyways good night folks you guys take care And share your thoughts with us, what your thoughts were on the UAP hearing. We'd love to hear them. Good night, everybody. Good night. This is Danielle Robay.

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