The GATE Program & The Gateway Mystery

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The Shadow Signal is live. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to another fantastic and exciting and spooky episode of the Shadow Signal. I'm your host, Stepan Gearhart, and I am very excited to be joined as always by the mysterious mysterial One himself, mister Josh Rutledge. What's happening, Josh? You know, it's a fun time in the UFO world.

If anybody is paying attention to think. I am not a trumper, but it's about the only thing I get excited about is when I see that he might do stuff. You know, although I don't think he ever will. I mean, I don't know, I don't either, but I

just see it occasionally. But maybe after the thing that Obama just did. Right, Yeah, let's talk about Obama. He was just on Brian Brian Bryan Tyler tyler' Cohen, which Brian Tyler Cohen is like, he's an independent. Journalist who's journalist guy that primarily operates on YouTube, but

he's been featured on like CNN and stuff he's got. Yeah, he's gotten big over the years. Yep. I've been following him for a long time. And he recently got the opportunity to interview President Obama and that his full interview is on YouTube. You can go Brian Tyer Cohen find it. Most of what they

talked about was Obama's opinions on you know, Trump and how Trump is handling some of the things that are going on. But at the end of the interview, like within the last few minutes, Brian Tayler Cohen got to ask Trump or sorry Obama a few questions that were just kind of you know, uh, really fast. Obama gave

kind of one sentence responses and yeah, done. So. One of the questions that was asked was are aliens real? And Obama said, and I'm gonna this is word for word. They are real. I haven't seen them, but they're not at Area fifty one. There is no underground base there

unless there's a grand conspiracy spiracy that extends beyond the knowledge of. The president, which, of course people are jumping in their seats right now just listen goes of course there is. Yeah. So I when I first heard it, I thought, oh, he's going to say, you know, aliens, like the way

that we talk about immigrants, right, but that you know, the fact that he threw in there they're not an area fifty one there is an underground base means that he interpreted the question the same way we interpret the question, which is extraterrestrial type you know, aliens. Yep.

So I thought about it and I was like, you know, hey, this makes Obama, in my opinion, the disclosure president. Yeah, yeah, because you know, and I honestly, I you know, don't know if he was in jest or what. But I've always said if Trump had knowledge of it, we'd all know by now.

Yeah. Well, and here's the thing too. And I thought about this after because somebody else messaged me and said what do you think? And at first, like I said, disclosure president, et cetera. But then I really got to thinking about it, and I was like, is Obama like chiding Trump to try to get Trump to go on

the record and disclose because Trump despises Obama. He has tried to overturn everything that Obama did when Obama was in office. I think the only thing he hasn't overturned yet is the Affordability Care Act. But as soon as he tried, he tries, he's tried, and he's constantly talking about how bad it is and how he can put

something better in place. I don't want to make this a political you know, but the bottom line is Trump hates Obama. If Obama now is classified in somewhat shape or form as the disclosure president, which is you know, frankly, I made a post about it and hopes that it might prompt Trump to be like, screw Obama, I'll tell

everybody what's really going on, you know. Yeah, you know, because I could you know, Obama. Is like, look, I'm a reptile. I mean, Obama is a strategic individual. And I could see him saying that just so it might pride Trump into doing the thing that everybody is waiting for him

to do. Yeah, yep, I I completely agree, and I would love to see that happen. Well, you know that happened. Uh, there's a there's talk that Trump was supposed to do it in like July of this year and then yeah to May of this year. So it'll be interesting

to see if Obama, you know, is the one who pushes Trump's buttons enough that Trump actually goes on the air and says all the details yep, yeah, all the deeps, all the deats. So it'll be an interesting next couple of months to see how things pan out, for sure. But bottom one.

In mind, I'm excited to see somebody because you know, at some point Obama's going to get hit again and say, you know, you're on record saying aliens are real. So I'm excited. I'm excited to see what he said. Yeah, if he's going to elaborate, because because that's the thing I think about about Cohen is that I don't

think Cohen is like a member. I don't think he would he would describe himself as a believer. He probably just asked the question, is like, what's an off the wall question that I could ask the president? But if if he were more of a of a UFO, you know, believer or experience or any that kind of stuff, he

would have asked a follow up question. All right, so I'm waiting to see you know, somebody else, you know who is in that camp. Let's say, get a hold of Obama and actually ask some of those follow up questions. Yep, yep. I love it, man, I love it. Anyways, that's the exciting news of the UFO disclosure topic

that's happening right now. And so if you all, if you're listening to our podcast and you're not familiar with what's going on, just go check out that interview with Brian Tyler Cohen and then yeah, there's just a lot. Of I mean it's it's clipped all over the place, so it's super easy you to find. Yeah.

So anyways, let's go ahead jump into psychic word of the week the psychic world. Oh oh all right. Psychic Word of the Week brought to you by the Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary by June G. Bletzer, PhD. Rest in peace, honeybear. I love you. I never knew you, but I swear you're around me at all times taking

care of my daughter, because that's what psychic ladies do. I wonder if she was the psychic too. Hold on psech Gingei Blezzer, noted teacher doesn't say she was a psychic, but it does say she was a teacher of parapsychology and dream analysis and stuff so interesting. Maybe she never claimed the title, but you know she was.

Anyways. I flipped through the pages. I landed on page two hundred and fifty five, and the first thing that I haven't done it this way in a while, but the words that grabbed my eyes here the term was glorified body. Glorified body, it says glorified body is an intelligence that, through many incarnations on Earth, has so purified

his or her soul mind that they can now transmute to all planes of the Etheric world and function properly under the laws of each plane. When appearing in the Earth plane, he or she takes a physical grouping of atoms, but the texture of the body is not as normal physical body is known to be. Appears to clairvoyance as

a beautiful radiance, encompassing a perfect physical form with an intensified brilliance around the head. For example, Jesus called it a crown of glory. A purified soul mind in a glorified body does not die, but when ready to return to the Etheric world, rises and ascends. Interesting. Yeah, very interesting and you know, somewhat related to

this episode's topic. Interesting interesting. You know, it reminds me of the Bahai Faith. The Bahai Faith talks a lot about different prophets and different higher plane individuals, Jesus being one of them, Mohammed and all these different ones like the I believe the Bahai Faith kind of covers all of them, and it's

like they were all ascendants, you know. Yes, well you talk about Alan Greenfield talked about the ascended masters, right, yeah, yeah, as being you know, you know, even when he was talking with Terry in his second interview, he asked Terry if he was an ascended master, So yeah, maybe maybe he was.

Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Very very interesting. Glorified body. And it's interesting because I kept waiting for it to say that Jesus was a glorified body, but no, Jesus talked about yeah, glorified bodies, which is interesting. So yeah, I mean, you know, it's always interesting to you think about the depictions of a lot of prophets

in Jesus and et cetera, in kind of like Catholic faith in the art around Catholicism, and they always kind of have that what we distinguish as a halo, right, right, but there is that that that aura if you will, around their head, which is what's. Which makes you wonder, I wish Santosh was on the

show if that is like uh, physicalization of the crown chakra possibly. Yeah. Well, and it makes me wonder because you know, you say that she was a teacher of uh, you know, psychic psychology or something like that. I can't remember the psychology psychology just like the Ghostbusters.

Right, and those were a lot of like, there were a lot of degrees in that in like the early or late seventies, early eighties, you know, yeah, don't find them anymore. But especially not in major institutions. Right. But it makes me wonder if having an interest

or affinity in kind of Christianity or Catholicism was some sort of a prerequisite, because it seems like a lot of people who have parapsychology degrees also come from kind of a Catholic. Yeah, I mean Catholics tend to be the demonologists and whatnot and stuff like that as well. So yeah, very interesting,

very very cool, especially back then. Yeah. Yeah, all right, well, thank you for that psychic word. Of the week and without further ado, let's jump into art. What you got something? Nope, I said, boomay. What's the main topic? The main topic, the main story. So the main topic

for today for this episode, we're going to be talking about something that I've been seeing a lot of TikTok and Instagram and everything else. It read it yep, and it's like, as soon as you mentioned it, I started seeing it every everywhere. Yeah, that's the algorithms at work right there. So anyways,

it's called the Gate Program gat E not not confused with the Gateway Program, but we are going to touch about We are going to touch on that a little bit. So at the veriest high level, the Gate Program, as it's talked about online, was a program that existed in the seventies and eighties to test children for being quote

unquote gifted. Right the way it is called Gifted and Talented Education program, right, yeah. Yeah, But the way that it's talked about online is that these children who are a part of this program were given uh, you know, I don't know controversials off the right word. But let's say I don't know unfamiliar

testing practices with trying to identify the depth of their giftedness. Yeah, some people reported saying, like, you know, sitting in front of a of a television set and having it play just kind of various weird images and having the child respond or react to it being listened, you know, listening to you know, uh sounds or tones in their ear

and having engaging their response to those things. And then the adults that are today starting to think about whether or not they were actually a part of a gate program also have things like shared dreams or shared memories. You know, one of the ones that I sent you, Stephan was, do you have a dream where you're in

a house. It could be a house that you own, or a house that you're looking at or whatever, and you find, you know, often in an attic or a basement, this kind of hidden passage that leads to a completely other section of the house that you didn't know was there. And I, for one, have had that dream multiple times.

So anyways, we thought in today's episode, let's talk about what the gate program is, what its connections might be to the Gateway Program by Robert Monroe. And then, you know, is there kind of a precedence for the CIA or some other government agency potentially being involved in such a program. Yeah, before we start. It's like I even have memories

of being given a headset and listening to tones, certain tones, and not asking me if I can hear them? But what does it make me feel? Yeah? I mean I have not explored, honestly whether or not in my youth I would have had any of those experiences. Like I do remember getting the eared tone test, but

I just I now in today's world, associate that with the hearing test. Right again, I remember that because that's a separate thing. I remember asking can you hear it? Can you hear it? But I have a memory being in like an RV like like that they parked out front. No, I guess

not an RV, but like a big ban or truck that had like a classroom inside or whatever, and being asked, how does it make you feel? How does this tone make you feel? I didn't include this in my research, but I it Also it also is very curious to me that around

the time that the Gate program was being conducted, did we saw we also saw a spike in a d D diagnosis. M hm, welcome, that's both of us. So again, is it, uh, you know, did the Gate Program identify people with that are quote unquote gifted, and

the medical community called, you know, label them a d D so that they can be tracked throughout their You know, I don't forget your conspiracy. But it makes you have super brains. So anyway, so let's let's start off with Yeah, let's start off with We're not gonna start off with what

the Gate program was. We're gonna get into that news a little bit, but I'm gonna start off with has the US government ever conducted any type of experimentation aimed at understanding you know, kind of a depth of of consciousness, let's say, of course, and and of course they have. And the very first one that probably everybody is you

know screaming at their radios or the TV is MK Ultra MK. Ultra, which sounds like a superhero team. But yeah, we Brad and I covered that many many moons ago early in Fearscape. So if you want to full get go on MK Ultra check that out. But what are you

going to say about it? Yeah? So, I mean, bottom line, you know, it happened from nineteen fifty three to nineteen seventy three, and it was it was most concerned with you know, mind control, behavior modification, enhancements in interrogation and things like that. It was it was using like drugs like LSD, hypnosis research,

sensory deprivation, electroshot protocols. You know. Basically, they these they brought in these civilians off the street were involved in the program, and they subjected them to all of these different experiments trying to figure out, you know, the how how long they could expose someone

to these things before they cracked or you know, you know, did they possess any other abilities to resist interrogation, do they possess abilities to you know, have psychic perception or whatever the case may be. And really it was only found out because somebody blew the whistle and in nineteen seventy three, actually many many records were destroyed, so like

we don't know who all was a part of the mkra ULTRA program right as far as who conducted it, as well as who might have been subjected to the research that was in it. But when they blew the whistle on it, that's when Congress got involved and said, hey, hey, hey, wait a minute, there are some there are some ethical

violations here, and that's what brought it to light, you know, is that this you know idea that uh and then of course conspiracy theorists got ahold of it. Is like, you know, the the CIA was using it to organize psychic child soldier programs and all this kind of stuff, and we you know, because so many records were destroyed,

we really don't know the depth of what they were trying to do with this program, but we do know for a fact that. It existed, that it existed. Yep, what is that that movie Men Who Stare at Goats that had a lot to do with MK Ultra as well. That's a great

movie if you haven't seen it. I thought that was more about which is the next thing we're going to talk about with the Stargate program. Maybe I don't know. I just know it had to do with psychic stuff so in the military. So that it kind of gives you know, the next

phase we're going to talk about is a Stargate program. Now, interesting enough, Culture ended nineteen seventy three, the Stargate program started nineteen seventy two. It's almost like somebody saw the writing on the wall and was like, we got to rebrand this thing, fellas, So they started Project Stargate started and ran from nineteen seventy two until nineteen ninety five.

And the Stargate program was all about remote viewing, and it was a research started at the Stanford Research Institute. This is where I think your men who stare at goats comes from. And so the program evolved under multiple code names. It was later consolidated underneath Stargate, but existed underneath multiple cold names throughout the time that it existed,

over roughly twenty years. Military personnel were trained and structured remote viewing protocols, Laboratory experiments were conducted, operational viewings were attempted, and in nineteen ninety five, the CIA commissioned an independent evaluation and the conclusion was that small statistical anomalies and it had inconsistent operational value, and the program was terminated or was it or was it exactly or was it

just rebranded again into something else? Ye, Because you know, I'm gonna I didn't really cover this a lot in my research. But you also think about Jake Berber and his team. If you're familiar with those folks, you know that came forward to a couple of two point eighteen months ago talking about the programming that they were a

part of called the Psionics program, where they used effectively remote viewing techniques to try to commandeer UFOs with their minds and control them to bring them into landings that they could be recovered. That seem that seems like a natural progression and from a remote viewing program to Okay, we've proven that this thing is possible from a remote

boom perspective, let's see if we can actually get our soldiers to contact u AP in the military technology and see if we can get anything from that. It seems like a natural progression in my mind. Yeah, but what do I know. I'm just an add gifted job. So yeah, I was just part of the gate program.

All right. So this is not really a fast forward, This is a rewind. So let's talk about quickly about the Gateway process with Robert Monroe. Now, yeah, we did a full episode on Robert Monroe, uh and his you know, contributions and the Gateway process and everything. And this is where I like that that psycond quord of the week

that you talked about while ago, I would say that it's possible that Robert Monroe was one of those individuals because he could travel to various planes of existence and operate on those planes of existence as if he was natively part of them. So maybe he was an ascended master, so the gateway process in nineteen in the nineteen fifties,

Robert Monroe was a broadcaster, you know, his whole interest was TV, and he began experimenting with audio tones and sleep learning techniques, and he really wanted to figure out ways that he can incorporate this into broadcasting to maybe you know, sell more Coca cola or whatever the case. Right, But this.

Led to the development of the hemis sink system, which is the use of bineural beats where one tone is played in one ear, one tone is played in the other in your mind, the two different hemispheres of your mind sink and actually play you hear a different tone. Yeah, like if two twenty two was played in two twenty

five I was played, you would hear both, but you would also hear three hurts as the third tone. And he later discovered that, like different by neurobats, would produce different results for different people. So the higher the third tone is, the more of a existential type experience that you have. Right, you could play tones to help you

remember things. You can play tones that can help you, you know, only in his mind learn while you were sleeping. You could go to sleep with headphones on and play a record and wake up and remember everything that you had listened to while your body was sleeping. Yep. I use it for anxiety, to deal with anxiety.

Yeah, sometimes I have anxiety on an airplane. When I'm playing an airplane, I have a bind aarobeats app on my phone that I'll just put my earbuds in and I'll just listen to that and it'll help me calm down. So yeah, yep. So he was initially interested in whether or not audio frequencies could enhance learning, like you said,

but this later led to his use of his Binari beats and his hemisync process to actually trigger out of body experiences that he then used to explore different planes of existence. If you're not familiar with Robert Monroe, I highly recommend either A you go back and listen to our older episode. It talks about anymoor b pick up

one or multiples of his books because he's a fascinating gentleman and I think did a lot to push our understanding of our selves, our bodies and how we are meant to interact with reality. So in the nineteen eighties, Monroe's work became the structured Gateway process, and in nineteen eighty three a US Army officer authored a report evaluating

the Gateway process. This is time this document attempted to frame and rose methods in theoretical physics language. Now, this document is actually available on the CIA's website. It's a part of their document dumps from FOYA. And this is where a lot of people, I think it rejuvenated an interest in him. He'sphink in the gateway process, because people

stumbled across this document on the CIA's website and were like, Oh, what's this and then they started researching into it, and that kind of spun things up again. But at the time in the eighties, when when Roe came out with this process, you know, you could get his Gateway process came on cassette tapes, you know, multiple cassette tapes, and

then later on CDs. You can get the box set of CDs and it's broken up across different phases if you will, So you got phase three, Phase ten, so on and so forth, each one taking you deeper into you know into your consciousness and being able to explo or the nature of your reality beyond just the physical plane.

Right, So how does. That relate to the Gate process? Well, like, well, like you mentioned the Gate process stood for oh and I'm totally just blinking. On one Gifted and Talented education. Gifted and Talented education program, and so mk ultra stargate.

Even their interest in the Gateway process shows that the government was interested in helping or not helping, probably not helping, but gaining some advantage over their adversaries in the scape of psychic world warfare. So one thing I want to take an a sign. There's no real documented thing here, but I'll say that I think it's generally we understand

as people, especially people in the phenomena, in the experiences with ghosts and poultry guides and things like that, is that everybody would agree that when you're a child, you're more open to the phenomena. Correct. And so I will take a leap here and say

that even if the Gate program started as just a means to help find and foster kids who had who weren't their needs weren't being met by the petic public education system, even if it started as that the CIA may have taken interest because through the thirty years of them conducting various programs, they likely would hit walls with

adults yep. Because once you kind of reach adulthood and society tells you that, you know, there's no such thing as fairies and all this kind of stuff, and you start to really turn off those magical parts of yourself to fit into society. Adults really don't have. Most adults don't really have the automatic capacity to imagine a world

where those things exist. So it's possible that the CIA saw that with the Gate program. This gave them an opportunity to test to see if children had the ability natively where adults did not. Yeah, And so there was never actually a federally run Gate program. There was a federal memo that went out to states saying, hey, we

think you know, this would be a good thing to stand up, but each state had to agree to stand up a Gate program. Funding was entirely provided by the state, and it was a state run program. There there may be similarities across states, but it was a state run program, right, So it was decentralized, uh, and it was really more

geared towards IQ and achievement testing. Uh. And it focused on enrichment and acceleration. So again, if you had the possibility of being you know, uh something you know beyond what the public school system could meet, they wanted to identify those kids and potentially move them over into schools where they could do more with maybe what they were given.

So many adults though, that were in the gate programs, they report feeling different, being pulled from class, experiencing early testing, developing strong, imaginative or into it intuitive lives. Some of later connected those childhood's experiences with a broader Cold War new narratives, even feeling like they had a purpose they could make a difference as it related to the Cold War.

So the interesting piece is is that we know the CIA has taken an interest before the Gateway process from Robert Munroe had the ability to enhance our understanding of the world. Right, I mean, is it is it possible then that children who were part of the gate program were unwittingly exposed to techniques in the Gateway process that

led to us having different types of lives as adults. Because we are bored for the most and I'll talk about me and you, Me and you we are more open to the phenomena than our parents are. Oh yeah, and their parents were. We also, uh, are are more empathetic, uh to the to the plight of other people. All

these things are you know, typically associated with people who number one have been abducted, uh and number two have had some sort of a significant spiritual awakening. So, you know, is it possible that, you know, children who are part of the Gate program have a higher imaginative capacity. You know that there's there's suggestibility that these things aren't real.

It's somehow overwritten by their involvement in this Gate program. That's why we as adults haven't reached this conclusion that none of this stuff is real, because we're predispositioned to not accept that narrative. Yeah, you know, our children more open to altered states. I think so. I think so too.

You know, it's often been speculated that kids going through puberty are a potential source of a lot of the poultry geist activity. Yeah, like psychic turbulence that's happening and causing these things to fluctuate. So if that's the case, you know, could a system like this have sought to capture that psychic turbulence and focus it and direct it

on something else. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, it's just a it's a really fascinating topic. And the fact that you watch these videos on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and all the kind of stuff talk about people who have you know, similarities

and syncreticities with the Gate program. It really makes me think that it's possible that, well, we know the Gate program existed, but it's possible that the CIA did have some sort of involvement or interest in the Gate program, and that even though it was done at individual state levels, those states had to buy their material from somewhere. Yeah,

and the fact that all the states kind of held a similar type program leads me to think that whoever they bought their material from was probably the same company, and was that company a front for the CIA. So what's really interesting is talking about the different mental health issues that have come up that I've seen on TikTok.

You know, they talk about more than just ADHD and add and things like that. But one that really grabbed me, and this happens to a lot of gen xers and zennials, like our generation, like specifically makes you wonder about this is night terrors a lot of people that feel like that they were in this program developed really bad night

terrors after attending. And uh, you know, a lot of us have nighttares. But I've talked to a lot of boomers. I don't know any of them besides my uncle who's right on the edge of boomer and gen X that had night terrors growing up. You know, I mean, I know it. I know, it's just something that's happened for

a long time. And yeah, but there's a lot of us that have had night terrors or have night terrors well. And it really makes you wonder if you know, like you said, nighttares go back in history. But is there some sort of a cyclical nation notion. Welcome to cyclical nations?

Yeah, where uh, you know, groups of people don't. I'm gonna get word of spiritual here from groups of people incarnate with a heightened sensitivity to things beyond their normal realm of existence, and that those incarnations of heightened you know, awareness individuals happens on some sort of a cycle, so that it's not so much that it's our generation, it's that,

you know, we just happened to be in the generation that hit the next cycle of heightened awareness individuals incarnating on the planet. M yep, maybe maybe. So, I mean I'll just say that I you know, there is no I do want to highlight there's no evidence.

There's no documentation that anybody has ever come across, correct, that shows that the CIA had an interest or was involved in any way, shape or form with the Gateway process or the gate program. Right. However, would there have been any documentation available had somebody

not blowing the whistle on aultrue? Correct? Yeah, right, because they were in the process of burning everything everything when somebody blew the whistle. So just because documentation doesn't exist doesn't mean it didn't happen. And that's going to sound very conspiratory of me, but I mean

that's what this podcast is, That's right. So, I, like I said, I have very few memory, which is I'll just take a step back and stay, which is very odd for me because I have an idetic memory. I can remember the most monotonous detail about things like what colors were in somebody's shirt and a meeting that I

had eight excuse me, eight years ago. But for some reason, when I think back to my childhood and I try to focus my thoughts on being involved in any of this testing, it all just gives. It's really blurry and fuzzy. Interesting. Yeah, Like I could think back to my childhood about

you know, riding bikes around the neighborhood and that time that my brother Jed rode his bike through a sprinkler and he turned orange. He rusted for some reason. You don't know why that happened. But anyways, but like I can't remember all kinds of things like that. But if I try to think about school, if I try to

think about anything that may have happened in or a partner around a school, again, my memories get very fuzzy. So I don't know. And then for me also when I was researching this, I was like, you know, what does this have to do with the people who think that all abductions are military military run right, you know,

mill labs and things. You know, Melinda Leslie up in Sedona here in Arizona, she's a big believer that all abductions are run by the military. They basically plant screen memories of aliens, but in all actuality it's the military that you know, that falls in line with the ias carrying out of mk ulture and various things like that.

So it just yeah, it's a big rabbit hole and I'm trying to keep my footing as I tumble down. So yeah, of course, you know, putting this out there, if any of the listeners feel like you have been a part of it or anything, we would love to get any information from you things like that. But another

thing that this all this made me think of is this creepy pasta that's out there from a user on Reddit called mother horse Eyes. If you have not checked out the way to listen to it, it's like it's two pot It's two episodes of this podcast called creep Cast, which I highly recommend creep Casts. It's really good. They

talk a lot about creepy pod, creepy pastas, and all kinds of different things, and they go in depth into these things. They do a two part episode on Mother horse Eyes and the flesh Interfaces is wild stuff. It's like a total of eight hours long. I mean this thing, I've listened to the first six hours of it, and

I mean I have to take I have to take steps back and be like, oh, it's wild. It's it's really wild. Goes into Vietnam and all kinds of crazy stuff. But yeah, check out the Creepcast episodes on Spotify. It's on Apple Podcasts, but just look up Mother Horse Eyes you'll you'll find it. It's crazy. But they talk a

lot about using kids as well to go into these flesh interfaces because the adults were dying. The adults couldn't handle it at all, and they had to use children, which was just, oh, it's being a father now, I'm like, oh my god. But yeah, I just wanted to throw that out there as something additional. I know it's a creepy.

Pasta, but well, there are there are similarities, and you know, you look at you look at a lot of our pop culture polls from that, I mean, look at eleven and Stranger Things, oh yeah, you know, uh, and and Stranger Things fringes right. Stranger Things is also based loosely on you know, the Montage Project, so you know, which is.

Great if you if you haven't seen did you see the finale of Stranger Things yet? I can't watch it? Okay, well i'll tell you. And the spoiler alert so if you haven't seen the finale, blah blah blah blah blah. Hopper at the very end is like, hey, so I

got this job out in mon talk. They want me to be a security or be a cop out in montalk. Like it's it was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was a nice little for those of those of us that knew about the mon Talk project. Beautiful, nice little shout out. Yeah, I mean that's pretty cool. But yeah, it's just

there's a lot of similarities or when you start looking at when you start looking at the similarities of other things, and even in the Philadelphia experiment and a bout some of the stuff that was happening at the time. Uh, it really really makes you wonder if you know, our understanding of the UFO phenomena is even just because we

have screen memories that were put there by the CIA. Yeah, I don't know. I just know that, Yeah, somehow all of it's connected. That's the way I've always felt about it. It's insane and somehow it's connected. If anything, the CIA, I would think, would would be trying to figure out

how they could utilize the UFO phenomena in a psychological way for sure, Yeah, to control people in populations. I mean that's what the Montak project started out as, how can they broadcast the signal that will cause people in the surrounding areas to go crazy or become complacent. Or to become complacent exactly.

So anyways, I hope you all have enjoyed this tumbled down the rabbit hole. And like Stefan said, if any of our listeners are people who watch this on YouTube, if you feel like you're a part of the Gate program or any of the other program, any of the other stuff, we'd love to hear about it. You know,

you can drop us an email at the Shadow Signal Podcast at gmail dot com. You can comment on our on the YouTube video, you can comment on the podcast episode wherever you might be listening. But yeah, we'd love to know if this is something that you've all been a part of.

Yep, absolutely, And uh that being said, I think it's time to wrap up, Josh, it's time to get out of here. I've got some guys are coming over to do some testing on me. They've got some tones I don't. Yeah, well, let me let me throw this one in there real quick. Last little bit. Think about hell, youre

uh and they were doing that thing where they got the ten can and what's your face talking about the tones? Mm hmm? Maybe yeah, me be. Could be? Could be. I'm telling you it's all connected, all right.

So thank you all so much for listening, for watching. This has been a shorter episode, but I think it's been really good one, really really fun to talk about. Absolutely appreciate that you all, you know, continue to tune in and watch and hear what we have to say. So really appreciate it.

From all around the world to straight in Kentucky, we thank you, guys. But yeah, thank you guys so much for tuning into the Shadow Signal podcast. We are out of here. I have been Stephan and uh just you know, stay close to the shadows and listen to the signal. Yep, this has been Josh. The truth is now.

Good night everybody. We'll see you next month. Good night. If everything's ready here on the Dark Side of the Moon, play the pop toones. Uh I, thot it, w h H