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Foo Fighters and Fringe Phenomena of WWII

Season 6, Episode 3 ·1:15:34
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Summary

Josh Rutledge and Stefan Gearhart explore reports of foo fighters and other unexplained phenomena associated with World War II, including phantom planes, cryptids and gremlins. They also discuss alleged wartime psychic investigations, Nazi occult theories and the disappearance of a blimp crew.

Episode highlights

  • 11:04A psychic dictionary entry introduces a discussion of Merkaba mysticism.
  • 17:47The hosts introduce foo fighter sightings and possible explanations for the reported aerial lights.
  • 27:06A reported ghost plane near Hawaii leads into stories of phantom military units.
  • 36:41The hosts discuss an alleged wartime investigation into psychic access to military secrets.
  • 39:26Reported encounters with giants and other cryptids during Pacific campaigns come under discussion.
  • 53:11Gremlin folklore, aircraft malfunctions and wartime depictions of the creatures.
  • 59:36The hosts consider theories about the Nazi bell and its resemblance to a reported UFO.
  • 1:05:19A blimp returns without its two crew members, prompting discussion of possible explanations.

People in this episode

  • June G. Bletzer — author
  • Keith Chester — author
  • Paul Rowland — author
  • Winston Churchill — person discussed

Topics

Show notes

Join Josh and Stefan as they launch The Shadow Signal, exploring everything from UFOs to cryptids and the paranormal. Tune in to dive deep into high strangeness and listen for the hidden truths. Can you hear the signal between reality and myth, or the aliens?

Transcript

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Welcome to the Shadow Signal, the Frequency of the Unknown. I'm Josh Rutledge. And I'm Stephan Gearheart. Together we dive deep into high strangeness, UFOs, cryptids, the paranormal psychic phenomenon, and the hidden truths that echo just beneath the surface. Somewhere between reality and myth lies The Signal. Can you

hear it? Tune in? The Shadow Signal is live and welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to another fantastically charged episode of. The Shadow Signal. I am your host, Stephan Gearhart, joined as always by my good friend and birthday boy, mister Josh Rutledge. What's up,

birthday boy? Man? You know what? I woke up this morning and I was like, I'm forty seven today, and it felt exactly like when I was forty six yesterday. It feels the same. So uh no, I mean it's it's been a pretty

good day other than I had. I was like, I'm gonna treat myself on my birthday. I'm gonna go get my favorite donut. So I went and got some cinnamon twists and I ate two of them when I got home, and then I felt like crap. The rest of the day.

So yeah, I wish I would have not eaten two cinnamon twists the first thing in the morning. But I guess that's a getting old problem. So that is a getting an old problem. Man, that is a getting old problem. We're both in our mid forties and we're going to be talking about the mid

forties today, so that's kind of interesting. Yeah, it is, it really is. So. Yeah, today's topic, in case the thumbnail didn't give it away, is the phenomena that happened during World War Two. During World War double double I double. Yeah. My grandfathers, both of them were in World War Two.

Yeah, I had my grand My grandparents weren't, but I had some great uh great uncles that were, Like I have a great uncle that was a airborne trooper, so cool. Yeah, My uh, my grandfather Medford, he was golden gloves when he was in the military in World War Two. He won Golden gloves boxing.

Yep, he boxed the army. He boxed the enemy into submission. He did, he did. But yeah, the stuff that I got going on that I was going to share, I'm gonna share when we get into our next bit, and if there's not anything else, we'll get into right into that, right right, Well, let's

go right into interrupted transmissions, interrupted transmission, interrupted's missions, where we talk about spooky things that have happened to us since the last time we met. But you know, we used to call this creepy ketchup, but now you know, we're we're dealing with the signal and sometimes that signal gets interrupted, man, that transmission gets interrupted, and things happened.

So well you go first, since it's your birthday. I'm sure we both have similar things. Oddly enough, yep. So this past like I don't know, four or five days ago, we had to put one of our family cats to sleep. We'd had him for nine years and he got really bad arthritis in his

back hips to where he couldn't go to the bathroom. You know, it just kind of laid around. He didn't eat, he didn't poop, he just you know, he would eat stuff and then p you get right back up because it had nowhere to go. So it's just a really rough life. And it was really hard for my life,

especially to say goodbye. But we ultimately made the choice that you know, it's better for his quality of life to say goodbye, and so we went and did that, and that evening, I was, you know, kind of doing my nightly walk through the house, turning off all the lights, locking doors, all that kind of stuff, and I noticed

that my dog, Luna and our other cat Ariel were interested in something by the back door. And when I rounded the corner and glanced at the back door, I saw the silhouette shape of Kitty Whiskers that was his name, and and you know, so I saw that and then I felt I felt him jump on me when I

went to bed that night, and actually at one point, like I felt him kind of walk across me. What he did all the time is he would lay on my wife, like she would sleep on her side, and he would get up on top of her, lay on her. And so I kind of reached out with my hand,

closed my eyes, and I just felt and I could feel like an energetic presence there, like I couldn't push, like it was pushing back against my hand. It's you know, kind of sitting where she was. So the next day is kind of like a comfort to her and to my kids, I told them that, you know, a Kitty

Whiskers was here in the house with us, and my wife admitted that she had actually seen him on the stairs, which is a big step forward for her to admit that. So but yeah, so she saw him on the stairs, So I mean she obviously still misses him. I'm missing you, by missus, I'm missing man.

He was my buddy. But but no one, at least energetically, he's still here with us, you know, it makes a difference. So he was cool cat man. He always hung out with me when I stayed the night over there. Yeah, so oddly enough you know this,

but our listeners don't really know this. But I also had to put down a pet last week, about a week and a half or yeah, about a week and a half ago. My dog, Kenobi, obie pug. Kenobi fifteen years old. So we knew it was coming. It was around the corner. It was eventually going to happen. But

he just, you know, he got sick one day. We took him to the vet and we both knew it was it was going to happen, and he had a tumor on his spleen and it's just regardless. Anyways, we had to say goodbye to him, and that's been really hard. He was a rescue. He's an Ori pay he's half Pug,

half shar Pei, and he was a rescue that changed our lives. We'd had him for eight years of his fifteen. And my daughter, you know, she's three and a half. She for a couple of days kept asking where's we called him Bubba. She'd say, where's Bubba, Where's Bubba? Where's Bubba? And we'd say, no, Bubba's you know, Bubba's not coming home.

And we explained everything was Bubba died, and she would say, no, no, no, he's He's coming home tomorrow. Well, the other day, she's sitting on my lap and she says, Daddy, where's Bubba? And I said, Bubba's not coming home. She goes, oh, there he is, and then she points down at my feet where he would always lay. She says, he's right there,

there's Bubba. And then she went back to going on her tablet or whatever she was doing. And I just, man, I felt him brush up against my leg and I got goosebumps, just ran up the left side of my whole body in my arm like and I knew he was there. But you know, little kids, they see things

we don't. Yeah, you know, yeah, they're actually her age. They're not. They haven't been tainted by the skepticism of the world yet, and so they kind of take things as being you know, very possible and even you know, as like one hundred percent you know true. So yeah, yeah, it was wild.

I mean she just said, oh, nope, there he. Is, there he is. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah. So, you know when I several years ago, I had to put my dog down. His name was Eli, and we'd had him for thirteen years, and he was the first like animal that my wife and I adopted together. So

that was, you know hard. Obviously it was hard to lose you know, a friend like that for thirteen years and then just the you know significance or semblance of you know not also you know, you hit together with somebody for that long. But we, I don't know, maybe a year after he died, we adopted a cat, and

I would joke and say, you know, this is Eli, like you know this cat we have Aeriel, but she really behaves more like a dog than a cat, Like, you know, she loves these little pom poms, you know, those little squishy cotton ball type things. And I'll get him and I'll throw him across the room and sugar,

get him and bring him back to me. And uh, Eli had like this place on his on his jow, like on the left hand side, and she's got the same place on her jow. I was just say kind of coloring even as Eli. So it was just like almost like you know, he he he came back. He

reincarnated as a cat, and he found his way back into our lives. So well, I sure hope my dog comes back because he was man, he was the best dog I've ever been around, barely barked. I mean, he's just a good dude. So and he was so good with Hazel when she

was little. You know, you know, they I think they do find ways to you know, especially if if it was a good you know, relationship with the people who were who were adopting with the family. I think they find ways to come back, for sure. I agree.

So well, you know, it's it's cool that we had those experiences a little a little you know, sad obviously the conditions that we had them, but still just reminders of you know, not to try to tie this back to the podcast, but just a reminders that you know, the signal is weird and it and you know when

when you think you've got it figuring out what it is, it turns around and does throws you a loop? So yeah, sure does. But all right, well, is there anything else you wanted to cover? No, I think that's pretty good. We'll just move on

to our next segment, which is returning after two episodes. It's the Psychic Word of the we the Psychic Work. Oh all right. Psychic Word of the Week is brought to you by the Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary by June G. Bletzer, PhD. Rest in peace, honeybear. I miss you, and I never even

knew you, but man, I wish I did. You know? We had some people asking us where psychic Word of the week, so we thought let's bring it back. So Josh, immediately you you before, before the show started, you gave me a page number. You said, three hundred and ninety six. So I opened up right to it, and the first

thing that I saw was. God. I'm probably gonna say this incorrectly, but mercaba mysticism. Merkaba mysticism. So I'm gonna take us step back and I'm going to read what mercaba is because the word before Mercleball mysticism is merkaball, so that way we can go into

what merkeball mysticism. Yes, it's m er sorry m e r ka b a h. And it's from Kabbala okay. So Mercaba says a text containing the sacred secret structure of the universe, the higher and the lower mansions, and the invisible worlds, and how the initiate passes through the mansions. So interesting, So mercabam. Mysticism, which says Jewish Old Testament,

is a doctrine in which one main aspect consisted of mental projections into the highest realms of the etheric world. Adept had a clear psychic vision of the higher realms. Only chosen disciples were permitted to engage in the sitting for a mystical visionary experience of divine intervention. It was called concentration on the Throne of Glory or chariot vision.

Adept sat until he or she experienced the ascension of their soul, which could take many days. For example, from Biblical passages, one says I saw the Lord on the throne and all the host of heaven standing behind him. Second says Ezekiel reached into the higher realms of the etheric world where he had a great vision of wheels

which was meant for the rabbis and the chosen very very is it's you know, you take it out of the biblical context, it sounds like something that we could still do. Yeah, just using kabbala, but you know, the adept could still meditate on that. You know what it's it kind of reminds me of

is almost like the Hall of Records. Yeah, well, it's interesting you say that. Let me go back to this here really quick, because I did notice underneath you know, it'll give you things that are related to it, and the Akasha Call of Records is listed under there.

So yeah, because it feels like if the Hall of Records is just one room and you know, the mansion, so to speak, and that what you just talked about the merke ball might be the the entire blueprint, if you will, for the mansion. Now, is that mansion haunted? That's what I want to know.

Only if there's a head and a floating uh glass ball. So that's so Disney of you. Not The newest haunted mansion though, was not bad. It was not bad. I don't think I saw the new one yet. That's not bad.

I saw the Muppet one. The Muppet one was pretty good. Yeah, if you're if you're a fan of muppets for sure. Yeah. Do you do you think that humans are muppets in the way that we are meat puppets? Yes? Yes? And speaking of meat, I learned a new joke today.

Okay, let's hear it. What's the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts? Beer nuts are a dollar twenty five, but deer nuts are under a buck. That's right. I've been telling that joke since high school. I'm sure i've told it to you before.

Nope, I don't listen to you. I mean, for obvious reasons, right. Yeah, I actually heard two versions of it today because I also heard what's the cheapest meat deer balls? Because they're under a buck? Yeah. Also, it's telling of my joke that beer nuts

are dollar twenty five because. It is problem. Right now, five seventy nine or something. They even make beer nuts anymore. I mean, what are beer nuts? I thought they were just nerts that you nurts nuts that you ate with beer.

No, it's it's an actual sweet and salty brand snack. You. I just thought they were like peanuts that you served at a bar, and so you would like while you ate, while you drink your beer, you would snack on nuts that were in the dish. No, they're they're kind of I would say, they're kind

of like kind of like honey roasted peanuts, but it's a little bit different because it's not honey. It's beer. No, they're just they do suggest that you drink them with beer or eat them with beer, so they're not made with beer.

No, So then I'm partially right. It's nuts you eat with beer. Either your frozen up or you just can't bring yourself to say yes, I think you may have frozen. So I'm back. I did indeed freeze up technology, so whatever little comment you made about beer nuts was probably inaccurate. Ah, okay, so you both froze up and you were

ignoring my comment. Yeah. I if I would have stayed online, I would have absolutely ignored your your comment. Yeah, I mean it asked to be expected. We've already established this that you don't listen. So yeah, yeah, what'd you say? Exactly?

Okay, so let's move on to our topics. Also, I just want to jump in there. Respect your elders Okay. Oh yeah, you are a year older. That's right. Let's let's move on.

The main story, all right, main topic of the evening. I am so pumped for this, dude, Like you had me. I don't even want to give it away, but you had me at Gremlins, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, so we are not like everybody's heard. We're gonna start off a little bit talking about food fighters because

everybody is i think probably heard the term food fighters. You're band with the band food Fighters, But uh, there was a lot of other stuff that happened in World War Two, and we're going to touch on a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a sensitive topic obviously, but yeah, so the uh so, yeah, starting out food fighters.

They were I think probably the first modern era documented cases of UFOs like are if you want to think about it, as like they were almost like the military UFO and then you had like a couple of years later you had the civilian UFOs like started to come into play. But but yeah, they were glowing orbs, you know,

typically red, orange or white, and uh they would reported like pacing with both Allied and access aircraft. So wasn't like a you know, they wasn't like they were taking sides or anything. They were first reported in nineteen forty four by the US four fifteenth Night Fighter Squadron over Western Europe. They were reported as being like non aggressive.

They just kind of were, I guess, interested in what was happening. They would just kind of track and mimic aircraft maneuvers and then vanish and like I said, both German and Japanese pilots also reported similar lights, indicating again a phenomenon not limited to one side. Do they You know, there have been many different theories, Like the diehard skeptics

are like, oh, it's just Saint Elmo's fire or ball lightning, but I. Mean really every yeah, swamp gas, yeah yeah. Some people think maybe they were secret weapons because that, you know, German the Nazi bell. Yeah, kind of like well the Nazi bell was an actual craft. We'll get

into that a little bit later, but like something there if you take a part, if you take away the actually kind of I don't know, unexplained or unexplained, but uh, interesting phenomenon that is not a traditional craft. Let's say, even outside of that, Germans were you know, they were the first really to create like the rocket. They were

the first one to have to actually fire a rocket instead of just dropping bombs. So German technology was advancing at a significant rate, and it was plausible I guess to think that, you know, German technology may be able to have produced some sort of you know, ball type glowing orbs that would interfere with pilots. But then if

that was the case, why would you also interfere with your own pilots? That you know that that's like modern modern day conversation. That's like saying that the US created the tic TAC and then flew it around and interfered with you. Know, US US. Right, Well, I mean there are some

people that definitely that, especially like branches against branch. Yep so, but I mean it would be yeah, that that's the same type of scenario. But you know, a lot of things, I think a lot of people probably settle not I don't know, maybe not a lot, but a good number of people probably settle down. Then it's

probably something else like extraterrestrial or inter dimensional or maybe some up or upper atmospheric life force that we're not even familiar with yet, right, you know, there's a there's a lot of our sky that we don't occupy, you know, at any given point of the point of the time. So yeah, but you know, we've got some kind of

famous kind of sources for these sighting information. So we've got military mission reports UH and pilot briefings. We've got Lieutenant Fred Ringwald UH and radar operator Donald Meres, both going on the record as you know, as part of those mission reports, seeing that you know, they saw this weird stuff going on. And then there's a a book

called Strange Company by Keith Chester UH that is a what what's it called again, Strange Company, Strange Company, and it's a supposedly the kind of source on w W World War two UH, aerial aerial anomalies. M hm. And now would you consider the crafts from the Battle of Los Angeles as being food fighters as well?

Uh, because they seem. From the images it seems pretty similar. I guess you could. I've I think food Fighters, though, is predominantly affiliated with like experiences during World War Two, whereas the Battle of Los Angeles was I think shortly after. Was it. I got to look it up now I'm

looking I'm on it. I think I've got it in my list Battle of Los Angeles of my stuff, but I'm trying to scroll through find it real quick. Actually, I think I left it out because it happened after World War Two. Yeah, I left it out in nineteen Well technically then that

was before we got into the war. I guess the war was ongoing, but that was before the US got into it. So but yeah, I mean maybe it is, maybe it's similar. If so, I guess that would be the earliest probably recorded sighting of you know, food fighters. Yeah, but it's always it's always listed as being separate, like

they're not lumped together as foo fighters. It's like a separate event. So yeah, and we were in the war at that point because a tack on Pearl Harbor was December seventh, nineteen forty one, so it was about two months later. Oh wow, I don't know. I really don't know my

dates do Nope, Nope. I always Spakipia in front of me. Yeah. For some reason, I always think that we didn't enter the war until like, yeah, forty four. So I don't know. I'm just going to chalk it up to Uh, I'm just go y, it's a timeline shift, that's all it is. It's it's yeah, it's a Mandela effect, that's right.

I remember being nineteen forty three in my in my universe, it was nineteen forty three. It doesn't matter. Time all exists at the same time. That's right. Yeah, And that interesting statement there. So anyways, food Fighters jumps us out of the out of the battle, and then I guess we could include although I didn't

look it up Battle of Los Angeles to include here, but like you say, I. Mean, no one else includes Battle of Los Angeles. I just thought it seemed pretty similar to me. It definitely is, and I always I always equate the Battle of Los Angeles to being more like the flyover

of DC that happened in fifty two. I think it was fifty two, where it's just like stuff just kind of showed up and yeah down, yeah, but maybe it was maybe it was, you know, really the makes you wonder. Then I don't know. I'm going to go off on a little tangent here and bear with me. Uh. People

have speculated that the islands of Hawaii are actually mountaintops from the lost continent of Lameria, and it does seem like UFO activity picked up in World War Two. Uh, and moving and then moving forward, especially into you know, nuclear testing and such. So it makes you wonder if war were if if UFO activity picked up because of

the bombing of Pearl Harbor, like, did did it somehow have a have an impact on you know, subterranean worlds or something that are still present. Yeah, in the in the Hawaiian islands there that we're trying to figure out what the heck was going on. Yeah, I mean that's the kind of connection I dig.

Yeah, ye, so, but yeah, it's it's just an interesting interesting for sure. Well, the next one that I've got here involves Pearl Harbor. This was December eighth, nineteen forty two, which, you know, if I remembered my own research, this would have answered my question. Just a year after the Pearl Harbor attack, US right R picked up incoming aircraft believed

to be a Japanese bomber. Fighters were scrambled and supposedly intercepted a high, heavily damaged P forty or a bomber that crashed in Hawaii. Witnesses claim the wrecked plane had no pilot, only a strange pilot's diary, leading to speculation of a disappearance or disappearance into thin air. Sounds like Bermuda's triangle man.

So it's like a ghost plane. Yeah, basically, you know this plane came in with no crew, no fuel, just appeared. That's so weird. So we've got phantom battalions. Uh, this is we've gotten in. We've gotten into the ghost section of our content. If you haven't here now. So we've got phantom battalions. So we've got Allied and Axis troops

reported seeing full military units appear in Vanish particularly during the Arden's offense offensive. Excuse me, So it doesn't talk about if they were like full modern military units, because I actually have I have heard of a ghost stories that are like in areas that were you know Roman Empire, Roman you know occupied and things like that were civil wars,

like they would see these like roll with legions come out of nowhere, march into a space and then disappear. They see that here in Kentucky all the time. That's many of the ghost stories. They'll see full battalions. Disappear, which I like to I like to think of those is like it gets back to the stone tape

theory where it's just like a it's like an echo of something that happened in the past, just repeating itself. The energy was so high that it recorded itself. Yeah, gets back to kind of the economic records discussion of earlier. So today even and this is a little bit of a sense the topic, but today even ongoing

reports by visitors describe ghostly soldiers, sounds of battle and spectrum marching in areas around Normandy and across Europe. Yeah, you know, I you know, my my, my grandfa Medford was in the first wave of Normandy and invasion. He lost his entire battalion. Like the only reason he survived is he covered himself with his friend's dead bodies

and waited until the next wave came. And there was a German soldier that came up to check the dead bodies and he shot him, and he that was the only person he's ever killed or anything like that. He at that moment decided he wanted to be a pacifist. That he named his boat the Pacifistic Like it was

this whole big thing. And we as the family still have this Nazi helmet with the bullet hole in it that my grandfather kept to remind himself to not kill, like to be a pacifist like it's wild man. But I always asked him, I said, you know, because you know, they they would invite World War two veterans over to

Normandy and all that to do the thing. And I said, how come you didn't. You don't you wouldn't go. And he says, I don't want to see my friends. And I take that as I don't want to see the goat of my friends, because you know, he's like,

I see them enough at night. Wow, you know, I mean I can't. I mean, I really I can't imagine. We talked a little bit earlier about seeing you know, uh pets that we've loved. After the fact that I can't imagine, I wonder how much of uh you know, the agony that soldiers go through

is because they are literally seeing the ghosts of loved ones, friends, or even enemies that haunt them, and they don't have there's not really a support mechanism that gives credence to the possibility of that being a real thing, and so it instead treats it as like a psychological type event. But but maybe it's true. Maybe they are actually haunted

by the ghosts of the house. And then think about you know, like those guys in Vietnam, uh following it up with LSD or acid or other psychedelics that would exacerbate that yep, right and really make you see it well. And and now, I mean there's a lot of papers

being written around the use of d MT to help people with PTSD, but I mean it really makes you wonder, you know, does it does a d MT trip if that's the right term. Also, you know, kind of induce the scene of these of these phantoms. So I don't know, I don't know.

But anyways, uh so for the kind of ghosts of everything, I've got another book for you here. It's called Haunted Battlefields of w W two and it's by Paul Rowland, and it would probably be an interesting read. Yeah, it reminds me of like phantom ships, you know, especially like the pirate ships or old English battalions and

things like that that sailors still see. Well. I didn't include it, but I just happened to think about the Queen Mary. I think that's doc Yah Long Beach. I think it was used as a hospital ship during World War Two. I'm trying to look it up real quick, but yeah, I think we talked about it in one

of our previous episodes, and we talked about like haunted areas in California. I think we talked about the Queen Mary a little bit. But yeah, I think it's it was story. Yep, it was actually used. It was began construction in nineteen thirty. Of course, great Depression hit and they kind of had a little a few setbacks and things.

Served as an ocean liner until nineteen sixty seven, but during World War Two it did serve as a floating hospital. Yeah. I think I might be wrong on this, but I feel like my Grandpa Bob on my dad's side, came over to World War Two on the Queen Mary two. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it was, maybe it was a

Queen Elizabeth, but it was the Queen something. I know that I always remember that story. Not the Queen's Gambit though, No, not the Queen's Gambit. But yeah, I think so. I'm trying to see if I can find anything that says maybe the Queen Mary two is incorrect, maybe just the Queen Mary one, because I think the Queen Mary that, like,

I know, it's been ten two thousand and four so. Well, and I know I know that a lot of times during worl War two they would use the military being they would use civilian ships, yeah, to move things. And that's why it got really bad because the German U boats got to where they started sinking all kinds

of civilian ships because they didn't you know, basically basically the mentality was it could be carrying supplies and soldiers, so sink it, you know. Right. So there's the HMS No. That one was out of commission in nineteen sixteen. The TS Queen Mary and then the RMS Queen Mary both were in service then, so

it could have been one of those. Anyways, it just made me think about what my yeah. Oh and it was called the Queen Mary too. So see maybe I am correct. Maybe you are correct. I mean I don't think you have to there's not like a registry or you have

to have a. Unique during World War two she yeah, yeah, here it is. During World War two she provided mail and passenger service to the Scottish Islands and that's where my grandfather went, was the Scottish Islands, pretty sure. And yeah, so there was the Queen Mary too.

Two is in the number two or t number. Two TS Queen Mary too. So I was correct. Yay, my memory is good. Well there you go all those times TSS whatever TS stands for. I don't know TSS. TOTAL know what HMS and the RMS stands for, but

I don't know what TS stands for. It doesn't show me. So moving on a little bit to psychic warfare and premonitions. Oh even back then, yep, Winston Churchill I actually ordered investigations into mediums and Second Site after rumors that German plans had been leaked through psychic means. The Second Site Inquiry nineteen four one to forty four. It was the

informal it was not an official code name, but Winston Churchill personally commissioned an inquiry into claims that a British medium had accessed military secrets secrets via psychic means. The case involved Brigadier Roy Firebrace, head of British Army Intelligence's Astrology Division. Wow, I would have totally joined the military, who reported

to Churchill that the psychic revelations could compromise national security. Churchill reportedly wrote a memo asking if this Second Site was real and if it had military value. Of course we know post World War two in the Cold War and everything I mean there was like a psychic arms race, if you will, between the Soviets and the US. So yeah,

I mean, it stands the reason they would have been exploring it. I'm sure then there there's always been discussions around and a lot of pop culture books and things have been written that have kind of explored the idea that that the Nazis were very interested in, you know, psychic or metaphysical type things, and so it stands to

the reason that you know, our you know, intelligence would have said, hey, they're into this, we should investigate it as well. Yeah. So apparently, and I have not gone to investigate, but apparently you can find a lot of details on psychic

investigations in wartime in the UK National Archives, so I know they I know they've made the digit they digitized a lot of that, yeah, in the last few years. So maybe it's out there searchable. That's really cool. So I'm sure that the Nazis really dug into it.

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. All right. Next up, we've got moving on to cryptid encounters. Oh, cryptid encounters gramolds. So we've got the Solomon Islands reported by Japanese soldiers during the campaigns of the Guadalcanal and nearby islands. A massive hairy humanoid ten to fifteen feet tall, emerging from

thick jungle foliage. I bet you Jersey Devil knows who that is. I bet you. I bet it's a good thing. He's still on vacation. Though in some instances, these giants were described as aggressive and confrontational. The Solomon Islands indigenous folklore includes tales of a giant forest dweller. Some wartime reports

claimed soldiers even found giant footprints and hurt a natural branch snapping at night. How how big were they? Ten to fifteen feet tall? So not sasquatch, So bigger than a sasquatch. Bigger than a sasquatch. Yeah wow? And this this says

like it says hairy, but not like I don't know, like your your uncle's probably hairy, you know, like not hair covered would be the term I would think would be used. So it sounds more like like just big hairy giants, you know, than yeah, like a BFG man. Yeah yeah, but not friendly.

Where and where where did they see these at? This was on the Solomon Islands. Solomon Islands and this was mainly reported by the Japanese soldiers. It makes you wonder if they had seen these things before, you know. Yeah, well, like it said, the indigenous folklore includes tales

of these giant forest thrillers, so at least the indigenous folks knew of their existence. I would imagine that, you know, any Japanese trader or something that, you know, maybe did business on the island, they probably knew of the cultural you know folk, right, maybe they saw them too. I mean you know that, you like, fishermen and folks always

have stories to tell because they're out, they're in places that most people aren't, in the middle of the night, right, you know. So, so the Solomon Islands are very close to Papa New Guinea and Australia, so. Also also thought to be part of the ancient land

mass of Lameria. That's pretty far away from. I know, it was a big land mass, dude. Oh well, that's right. It was kind of Pangaea esque, right, yeah. Yeah, And it's really interesting. Not to change the topic, but they have recently found that there is actually a

submerged continent. Yeah, like it's it's more on I think it's on the other side of Australia between like Africa and Australia. But still if they found one, it stands the reason that well, I mean, wasn't it like. West of Africa where they first thought Lamiria or East of Africa or something where they first thought Lameria was

the guy that. The East of Africa? And it was because of the island of Madagascar. There's so much diversity of life that doesn't really like it's more than what's found on any other their single island, implying that like it would have maybe come there from another location before it was an

island type intel. So the submerged continent is called Zeelandia. Yeah, yeah, I thought I had heard of that before. It's it's the home of Zulander. Yeah, all right, So moving on, We've got and I'm probably gonna pronounce this wrong, but bukit Tima monkey man in Singapore.

Monkey man. Oh, I've heard of this really? Yes, So because of me and Santash's cat, our monkey cat when that our sighting of the monkey cat when that first happened, I researched everything monkey cryptid related and I remember this, but go ahead.

Yeah, so this was reported by again Japanese occupation forces during World War two, a small to medium sized bipedal ape like creature about three to six feet tall, covered in grayish fur, and scene within the bukit Tima rainforest. This cryptid persists in local legend and occasionally shows up even in modern sightings, particularly within Singapore's remaining primary forest.

And that's really all the information I have about it. But still it's interesting in a noma. Yeah, for sure, there's a apparently a documentary called Cryptids of World War two, but it's not on anything, so I don't know where you would get it from. You might be able to find it on archive.

Yeah, or YouTube maybe, yeah? Or YouTube? Yeah, what's it called Cryptids of World War two? Oh? Okay, so it's Cryptids. Of w W two is what IMDb says. Okay. Next up, we have we have giant spider crabs on the Oka Noawa beaches.

Dude, I hate spider crabs. They are so freaking creepy, man. I hate them. I hate going to the aquarium and. They're like, look, we got spider crabs and I'm like, I have nightmares about spider crabs. Really, yes, they're awful. You've seen the movie that was

it was Okay, I guess, but that was the movie version of the TV show. I'm totally gonna blank on it about the family that ends up in like another part of the galaxy or universe. Or something lost in space. Austin space, thank you. But the movie version of that,

there's like these weird spider things that the guy becomes one or whatever, like those are always. Freaking out, Yeah for sure. So anyways, giant spider crabs again. Japanese around nineteen forty five, near the Battle of Kanawa, soldiers saw giant spider like crustaceans, some with two to four meter legspans. It's like, I

think a meter is somewhere around three feet, so that's pretty big. And they were feeding on battlefield remains. Yeah, I don't like that. Okay. Moving back over to Europe a little bit still encrypted category M. We've got were wolf Okay, so the in that time, This is a little bit of a non encryptied piece of information. But

in German propaganda, the SS backed guerrilla fighters were called were wolves and did conduct clandestine raids behind Allied lines from forty four to forty five. But locals in US troops spoke of wolfmen in forests and they may not be related to the group that were called there were wolves. They found uniforms that were found like torn clothing was ruined.

They just assumed maybe it was you know, during combat or environmental damage. And an interview conducted an individual claimed knowledge of a species. Sorry, I included the summer we're talking about. So we conducted an interview several episodes back of a person named Kinderstar, and she talked about a species that lived in Europe, Central Europe called the Laconians,

right said to inhabit remote regions of central Europe. And she described them as being wolf like humanoids, but they could mask themselves to look more human when they went out and interacted with the human population. So this made me wonder if, like, like, if we assume for a moment that Lyconians are real and they do live in

Central Europe, might they have font during World War two? And could they contribute or have contributed to the werewolf encounters of World War two. It's possible. That's extremely possible. Because again I go back to the name of the unit was the werewolf wolves, but US troops spoke of

wolf men, which is different, right, Like you wouldn't I can't imagine coming across a gorilla unit that's fighting trying to sabotage this thing that I'm doing, and describing it as a wolfman, unless that person is wearing like a wolf headdress, But that would not be very like war. I mean, I guess if you're trying to pass yourself

off as a wolf so you can attack things, I don't know. It just seems really odd that, just because the unit was called the Werewolves, that they were describing as wolfmen. So anyway, I just thought that was interesting. Again, going back to another episode where we interviewed that person that talked about the Laconians, I could definitely see that species,

you know, being involved in World War two, because I mean, it was the right in their backyard. I'm not trying to say that the species was the Werewolves unit. I'm just simply trying to say that maybe they were fighting, and when they were when they're fighting, they don't do a good job of hiding their wolf features. And so

then people say, we saw wolfmen in the forests. Right, I don't know, not just your uncle who's Harry right exactly. Speaking of hairy things, we have now the hairy thing. Of the Philippines Yes described by Marines as a large bipedal creature somewhere between an ape and a man. They

yep Us. Marines patrolling dense jungles in the Philippines during the forties occasionally reported large bipedal hairy creatures trailing units at night or disappearing into thick vegetation. Stood approximately five to seven feet tall and appeared to combine ape like physique with human like posture, eliciting fear. And it is the uneasy tension among troops. I want ahead. It took

a one step further and looked to see if there was any folklore representation of this in the Philippines, and there is. So there's the I'm probably gonna pronounce this wrong. The capri k a p r e. Is a traditional Philippine tree giant, typically seven to nine feet, shaggy, bearded, and sometimes smoking, thought to dwell in large forest trees

and play pranks on or scare humans. Uh. And then next is the Alma Maongo, a creature from Visian legend resembling a smaller yet fierce, white hairy ape around five feet known to attack livestock. Man see, I need to ask my aunt she's from the Philippines. I need to ask her you ever be

like Polar Side one day, like you ever heard of the capri or the Alma Mango. She'd be like, you. Spoke the sacred words. Well, if you don't show up for the next podcast recording, I'll know why. So apparently there was a bunch of veteran interviews from the Veterans History Project, and that's where a lot of these kind

of cryptid, citing cases came from. So I guess if you look up the Veterans History Project and dig through there, you might find more very cool. Next up on the list, and I didn't include this in encryptis because I felt like it needed or felt like it belonged more in this other category. So next up on the list we

have Gremlins, FAYE and elemental encounters. Yes, I agree. I think I think gremlins fit the FAYE more than anything because they're like. So Grimlins. RAF pilots frequently blamed mysterious mechanical failures on small mischievous beans called grimlins. Reports included sightings of tiny humanoid figures tampering with flight instruments mid air. I always

whenever I think about Grimlins and think about well, other than the movie, which I don't think does a like the movie portrays them completely different from the way folklore describes them. But the two other things that I think about with grimlins are the Bugs Bunny cartoons from World War Two where he's like flying a bomber and they're

mess up and stuff and you know things. And then the other one is the William Shatner where and he's like there's something on the wing and there's like this thing out on the wing and he's like a passenger on a plane. I think that was a Pilight Zone episode. Yeah, on episode I also recommend Shadow in the Cloud.

It's got Chloe grace More. It's it's freaking awesome and it's about a World War two female flight officer board of B seventeen flying fortress that gets gets attacked by gremlins and it's awesome. Man. Well, and in the so the When Ahead looked up the kind of cultural roots of Grimlin lore, and it

does have some roots in British and Celtic fay mythology, especially around like sprites and trickster spirits causing disruption. The term grimlin first appeared among raf pilots in the nineteen twenties, particularly in locations like Malta, India and the Middle East, as a sneaky culprit for mysterious mechanical failures. A nineteen thirty eight poem noted Scotland as Grimlin Country, with parts

of these creatures using scissors to cut aircraft wires. By April nineteenth, nineteen forty two, the Royal Air Force Journal included a formal piece by pilot Hubert Griffith reflecting how ingrained grimlin lower was among World War Two airmen. I mean, I when I was looking up the stuff about grimlins, I came across like World War two posters, you know

that would have been hung up in stuff that actually had, you know, things about grimlins and like checking to make sure you don't have any grimlins and all this kind of stuff. So I'm looking at some of them right now. Grimlins were blamed in RAF training memoranda as real scapegoats

for mechanical quirks. Described humorously yet effectively. Grimlins were typically singing as around one foot tall creatures with large eyes, claws, and spiky backs, and colors like blue, green and brown YEP. I mean That's what's say interesting about the movie Gremlins, you know, because they completely sidestep English and Scottish lore and European loar and they go for Chinese lore, which

is really interesting. Some catalogs categorize specific types like optics, bombie, water jockey, each credited with different technical sabotage. So going on. There's actually an account from nineteen forty four that describes a pilot spotting a creature of this is, in quotes, a creature about three feet tall, gray and hairless, excuse me.

In another al like figure dancing on the plane's nose amid the engine rattling That was of a B seventeen pilot. I thought this was really interesting. And I'm gonna butcher the first name because I'd never get it right. Rolled, doll, roll, dull. Okay, it was an RAF pilot, which I thought was really interesting. Anyway, And you know, he wrote the Grimlins in nineteen forty three,

which you know, he kind of envisioned them as mischievous, mischievous but ultimately helpful, and his illustrations is what fueled Disney's interests. Yeah, I know, there was supposed to be like a Disney movie. Or something wasn't there there was. I never had any

more details around it, but I do remember seeing that in my research. Yeah, that's something I've known about for a while. And like we said, you know, there were military safety posters across the US and the UK during the war featuring Grimlins. It's the kind of humorously remind crews to

check equipment and boost him around by shifting blame away from human error. I think it's also interesting. I don't have any specific details here, but I just wanted to make the comparison between the description of a Grimlin to the description of the Hopkinsville Goblins. Yeah for sure.

Right, very much like you know, big eyes, claws, spiky banks, you know, bulletproof effectively. I think the ones in Hopkinsville were mostly depicted as like like green, but or gold. That's where the little green men come from. Yeah, so I mean but still, uh, you know, we've talked about it on the show before that Lord doesn't know,

you know, geographical boundaries, and so it's very possible that the Grimlins of the EU were they also Hopkinsville goblins, same type of species or whatever. So it could be I mean the big ears, you know, yeah, big eyes claws, yeah, very much so clawd beast yep. And then I got another here for gnome and face sidings.

So soldiers, this is a short one. Soldiers and camped and ancient for us, especially in Europe, reported seeing small humanoid figures watching from underbrush or dancing just outside campfires. Some described hearing music or laughter with no source. That's not creepy at all. So next up we have We've already kind of mentioned

this a little bit, but the die Glock or the bell, So we've got to kind of touching on a little bit of the bell and Nazi occultism. So the bell is an alleged Nazi anti gravity time manipulation device housed on a concrete structure known as the Hinge in Poland. And there's been a lot of things speculation and whether

or not, you know, that was something that was constructed by the Nazis, or if they inherited it from another race, or whatever the case would be. But there's been a lot of documentaries and shows dedicated to exploring the Nazi the bell. So it is interesting though that the bell, the way it's depicted a lot of times in those shows,

looks a whole lot like the Kexsburg UFO. Yeah, the a corner whatever type shape. So it really makes you wonder if you know, if it was a crash retrieval of a UFO, maybe the Kexsburg is related in some way. Yeah. You know what's interesting is there's you don't hear very often talked about the Bell but that it was possibly

a time machine as well. Yeah, you know that it had the ability of distorting space time, which already brings me back to thinking about the mon talk. You know what's really I'm gonna bring this modern just a little bit. I was watching I watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind again today, and I probably wants

it like maybe once every six months or something, just to see what I didn't pick up on the first couple of times. I actually heard something different today, and that was when they were talking about the big mothership UFO had, you know, kind of come down in the area and they were moving closer to it, and there's

like a voice across an announcer voice that says, be careful as you get closer to the craft, you may encounter low gravity situations. That seems like an interesting piece of information to kind of throw in the background because somebody's really paying attention to the guy on the announcer thing, you know, of a movie. And it also implies that

there was some indication that at least Steven Spielberg knew the possible of these being uh these craft working by manipulating gravity. Yeah, so there's probably all kinds of the little easter eggs in that movie that nobody has really picked up on yet. Oh, I know, I'm excited because he's wanting to do

another type. Supposedly he's already started shooting it. I'm excited because that's the whole New Jersey drone thing. Everybody was saying, it's Steven Spielberg shooting his new movie. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Anyways, moving on, we have also within the Nazi

e cultism category, we have the Fuel Society. Yeah, and mysticism claims the ritual work, psychic training, and ancient energy manipulation. Again, I didn't go into great detail here. We probably spent a whole episode talking about on just that. Oh yeah, I mean, my god, you could talk about Eric Jan Hunter, Howsen, all kinds of stuff in Himmler's

obsession with Yeah, that's a whole episode. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So I just touched on it here and then really interesting here, many of the scientists that were connected to this exotic technology vanished or or absorbed into Operation paper Clip in the US, and then the US shortly thereafter started playing around with psychic you know,

remote viewing. He had mk ultra like, how much of that stuff came from you know, these scientists that came over that we're doing this kind of fringe work for the Nazis. And not just the Nazis, I mean, geez, I mean even you know, there's rumor that you know, the the

British Special Operations Executive the SOE, you know, engaged in their psychic warfare and used people like Ian Fleming or Alistair Crawley stuff like that. It's cool, Yeah, I mean it is really cool. I know that, you know, a lot of this stuff has come out, especially from the CIA files and things from

different Foyer release you know, documents said, I would say that I've probably spent very little time actually calling through all the documents just to see what all is there. I'm sure somebody has, but I'm just wondering, like what else, like what has been made available for plane viewing, like you know, we talked about it. I think a couple

of years ago somebody dumped like I think it was the UK Archives dumped like six thousand files online, Like what truths are hitting in those six thousand files that you'd have to read through every single page, line by line to build to find. So yeah, good god that people do that.

Yep, they do. They have more time than I do, time and money. All right, We've just got a few more left here. The Ghost Blimp, the Ghost blimp that was my nickname in high school. A US Navy blimp launched in nineteen forty two with

two men aboard, returned intact hours later with no crew. A good year built L class blimp took off from Treasure Island in San Francisco at six oh three am on a routine anti submarine patrol with Lieutenant Ernest DeWitt Cody and Insign Charles Adams aboard. Cody was twenty seven, Adams was thirty five. The last radio contact was around

seven thirty eight am. The crew reported investigating an oil slick near the Far Far Along Islands and deployed smoke markers. The disappearance occurs somewhere between eight to fifty and twelve or eleven fifteen am. The blimp deviated from course, drifted back over land, and no further communications were received. The unmanned L eight blimp drifted towards Ocean Beach and landed

gently on Bellevue Avenue in Daily City. Onlookers and firefighters were baffled to find the gondola intact but completely empty. The parachutes, a life wrapped, life wrapped, classified documents and weapons were all still on board. The gondola doors were opened and the engines were still running, yet neither Cody nor Adams were ever found. I mean, it's like, did

they jump out, Well, but I mean the parachutes were on board, well don't. I mean, maybe they thought they were low enough to just get in the water. I mean hitting the water at like fifteen feet is pretty hard on the body. I mean that's you know,

water's pretty solid. I mean, you got some gremlins on board. Well, like so one of the kind of there's a couple of I guess you know theories. One of them is that they jumped out, and one of them is that they kind of like went out to inspect something

while the craft was in the air. And fell and just died like they just you know, sorry about luck. The other theory though, is that either Jeopanese submarine may have captured them, but the depth charges that were on board for submarines were still on board when it landed, or it was just desertion or defection. But then, of course,

the fringe theory is they were abducted. Yes, by aliens or gremlins, I don't know, or gremlins same thing. But yeah, no signs of distress. They never radioed for help. The engines are running, paratriots were on board that they were never found, and it's an open case. It's never

been closed. Yeah, I see here they waited until nineteen forty three to declare them legally did Yeah that's wild. So yeah, so that's the last one of the research here. You know, there's there's some possible frameworks and explanations like mass hysteria or you know, something I wondered about, like

all the stress and trauma that was happening at this time, did it basically create some sort of like psychic rift right where all these things were happening? You know, absolutely, you know, we know or we don't. I guess we know but it's speculated that like females, as they go through puberty, they generate a lot of psychic turbulence, and

that's where you sometimes poultry ticing things come from. Well, they this book, I'm well, I'm on the second one now, but this book by Nick Roberts, it's called The Exorcist House. I'm reading the second one, Exorcus House, Genesis and the Exorcist that's in there. He talks about that, you know, these portals, that there are physical portals that demons.

Can use it up. But then there is this possibility of because he goes into a psych ward not a psych word, but like, for lack of better words, a looney bin, right, like goes in and there's a man that's possessed and they think. You know, he talks about thinking that all of that thought,

all of that stress of being in you know, this is this building that was originally meant to house fifty people now houses two hundred and fifty people, you know, because it's the sixties at this point in this book, and the conditions are bad and all this stuff and all this stress created a portal, right for something evil

to come through. Or you know, and I don't. It's hard for me to describe the idea of demons. But I would also not discount what you just said. But I'll just say that I think that sometimes we do just create a lot of psychic turbulence for each other. Sometimes that can

wreak havoc of its own. Sure, But I would also like to going back just a little bit to what we were talking about before. Is I lost it? Hold on? Oh, is it possible that like you know, we were we were experimenting with radar and stuff at the time. You know, radar was the relatively new experiment. Who knows what tech

may have induced dimensional bleed through or you know, terras in the space time fabric or something like that. So yeah, again Philadelphia experiment for example, Well we've got the month type you know project damn. Yeah, So but yeah, I don't know, it's all very interesting, I guess to kind of wrap it all up, like it it definitely feels

like this stuff like this, the signal has always been there, and it's only when we as humans do things that cause like a spike in the energy of the space we inhabit, that the signal just kind of like bleeds through almost. I just you know, it's talking about all this World

War two stuff. I wish, I wish I had been into this paranormal stuff when I was younger. I mean I was into it when I was younger, but not enough point to be brave enough to ask my grandparents, my grandfather, you know, like I would have loved to have talked to him and.

What Yeah, like you talked to people about what did you would you see out there? Pop? Pop? You know? Yeah, I don't know what you called your grandfather, but that was the grandpa grandpa? But yeah, I mean it, you know, And and like a lot of those there's not a lot of those World War two folks left. Yeah.

When I work, I think we have two two vets that are from yeah, that we're in World War two. So I mean, you know, heye, people, if you got any World War two vets in your family, talk to them about the Reblins. Yeah, find out, you know, find out what you can, because I mean, I'm not trying

to be cheeky. And they may they very well meet maybe hold key information or elements about things that they were never asked about. And so they've never. Talked about yep, but never talked about it. Yeah, absolutely so. But yeah, that's episode was good. That was good. I love talking about World War II stuff,

especially bringing in the the occult and paranormal and all that jazz and cryptids. That's super cool. I I you know, I didn't really know much about cryptids besides gremlins. If we would consider them cryptis. Yeah, but yeah, that was really cool. Yeah. No, I think I started thinking about I think

I posed the question even to like you and our friend Santosh about it, like maybe grimlins are you know, just kind of a form of fame because they are very tricky, you know, mischievous little things kind of like like. I said, like brownies. Yeah, like that's why I said, I call them greenies. Yeah with the dog trees.

Yeah, they don't call your teeth. They steal them, so. Yeah, they steal your. Awesome man. Well, let's go ahead and get out of here. Thank you Josh for doing all the research as usual. If anybody had any stories, you know, from your grandparents or

anything like that about World War two or anything. If you've got any paranormal stories you want to share with us, find us on our socials or you can email us at what's the email address Josh. The Shadow Signal Podcast at gmail dot com. Yep, you can email us there, send us your story.

We'd be glad to read them. I'm always talking to my residents. I think my friend Barbara that shared the story last month has a couple of paranormal stories she wants to share with me, so she might be writing those down for me, so that'd be pretty cool. But yeah, share those stories with us. We love that stuff. That's

what keeps us going. But yeah, we'll go ahead and get out of here. Thanks again, Josh, I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, thanks for everybody who listening. If you haven't already, please like the show, subscribe to the show. If you are listening on a platform that gives you the ability to leave a review, please work great. Review us, that's great,

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