Deck the Halls with Beasts & Claws: A Cryptid Holiday Special

Welcome to the Shadow Signal, The Frequency of the Unknown. I'm Josh Rutledge. And I'm Stephan Gearheart. Together we dive deep into high strangeness, UFOs, cryptids, the paranormal psychic phenomenon, and the hidden truths that echo just beneath the. Surface, somewhere between reality and myth lies The Signal. Can

you hear it? Tune in? The Shadow Signal is lived. Happy holidays, everybody. Welcome back to another fantastic episode of the Shadow Signal Podcast. I'm your host, Stephan Gearhart, joined as always by my co host, the man with the biggest ears I've ever seen, apparently, Josh Rutledge.

How are you, Josh, I'm doing fantastic and I heard that intro quite well, so thank you for that. Good And we are also joined by our bestest buddy in the whole world, sand and Josh joining us for the special Christmas holiday edition. What's up, Santa? I'm excited to be here, That's what's up.

That's right, little astral stu action coming at you for the holidays, yep. And there may be even a surprise guest later on from what I've been hearing through the ether, but Josh, tell everybody what we're doing today. Yep. So we thought we'd have a little fun. We're doing the twelve Days of Cryptidness.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, twelve days of Cryptidness. Now, before we get into twelve days of Cryptiedness, we got to start, as always with our psychic word of the week. The psychic World. Oh oh. Psychic Word of the Week is brought to you by

the Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary by June G. Bletzer, PhD. Rest in peace, honeybear, you are the ghost of Christmas past. God love you. Never mention it, but I do love you. I flipped through the pages before we got things started, and I looked down and I saw a creepy one, and I thought we'd go with that because we're recording

this on the seventh. So two nights ago was Crompus knocked. And so anytime I can celebrate the scary, I will celebrate the scary. So the word phrase that came across here was in the letter L for lying spirit, Lying spirit, and it says an inferior etheric world entity who manages to usurp the place of a normal High Entities intervention

uses vulgar language and gives misinformation during a seance or psychic development circle, maybe due to an ill medium or disharmony among the sitters which causes a broken circuit in the circle. Yeah, so it got a lying spirit and it looks like it would be the fault of the people in the circle.

Yeah, you know that, Stephan, That reminds me of the one of my very first attempts at channeling. If you remember, we was sitting down on that road near what is it Lake Pleasant here in Arizona, and that you know, that entity kind of came in and was like I don't want to leave, yep, yep.

So what do you think about that? Santos? I would just like to say, the good ones can cuss too. Oh yeah, cussing is not necessarily. Is not a big indicator, but okay, I don't know. Yeah, cussing and vulgar language, to me are kind of

two different things. You know. I immediately think of like a demon possession, Like how think about. All of our early days with it, and there was always some dumbass that was like, I'm the devil, sure,

you are. Always, always always trying to be the devil, trying to be a lying spirit. I son, is that? What what's his face that you don't like? Stephan? Is that what he always invites? Maybe you know who I'm talking about the you know it

must be a demon guy. What's the guy, the ghost hunter guy. Oh, you're talking about Zach Baggins. Yeah. Maybe he's always inviting lying spirits. Oh yeah, always he Well he's an antagonist. There's a difference. He's always antagonizing Trump.

I mean, if he's if he's looking for. He's always looking for demons. Yeah, he's always looking for like the thing that's gonna just appease his want for the big and outrageous. Maybe he always gets that lion entity. That lying spirit. Interesting, very very interesting, all right? Uh yeah,

I think that maout covers lying spirit. I told you ahead of time it was gonna be a short one, but it's a it's kind of a cool idea. I like that idea that if the medium is sick, that they can cause a lying spirit to come in. Or just maybe just off frequency wise, had a bad week,

still decided to do a mediumship thing. You know, hey, media your. Mental health, you know, yeah, crazy. It can take the position of the high entity, though, like it can knock a high entity out of the you know. Yeah, but like like you said, maybe it's a matter

of like the person who's or the people who are calling it in because they're not in the right frame of frequency. That's why. Yep, they need to tune into ninety five point seven. And you can tell you're biking levelle yep. All right, Well that's our psychic word of the week.

We discussed ahead of time. We don't have any interrupted transmissions, not even santash. It's been kind of a quiet couple of weeks, so that's, you know, not too shabby. I don't mind. I don't mind a quiet couple of weeks. Yeah. Well, there's enough ghosts of Christmas past haunting other people. This season, that's true.

That's true. Back up at the end of December usually anyway. Yeah, for sure, for sure, it's like, oh new, you. Hang over from Halloween. Everybody's time needs a little recoup time. And then you know going, you know, and they're like, we'll give you Yule, We'll give you Yule, and then.

We're twelve days of Christmas, are yeh? All right, speaking of twelve days, Josh, let's jump right into the twelve Days of cryptid Miss. All right, so, uh, I did prepare a little like, you know, on the first day of well, I'm not gonna it's like it's going to be overkill.

So I'll just go, hey, if you want to, you know, go back and listen to the Jersey Devil's version of the uh Night before cryptid Miss if you want all that. So I'll start it off with on the first day of cryptidness, santase cave to me a big foot lurking in tall trees, you know. So that gives you an

idea of like, what about how it was going to be, Yeah, how how very uncomfortable is going to be? Also Defen's background. Yeah, yeah, that's convenient that synchronicity. I So first up on the list is a bigfoot. Being that we're doing this in North America, I felt it fitting to start with,

you know, a North American cryptid, although I would imagine that sasquatch and Yetti and bigfoot are probably interchangeable terms, and so it's probably not a North American you know, cryptid, but so yeah. That already makes me think that Yetti back in the day across the bearing straight to get over here and

turned brown instead of white. Yeah, you know, I mean there are brown bears that live alongside polar bears, so maybe they're even yetti that live alongside brown's. Maybe. Anyway, so Bigfoot North America, we've got, you know, the

first count the canon case is the Patterson Gremlin film of October twentieth, nineteen sixty seven. So that was actually just we just had an anniversary of it yep, six weeks ago or so in Bluff Creek, California, as a little bit of a we'll call it, you know, historical reference, you know type thing. I did go out and find

the entire film, the Patterson Grimbalin film that somebody had loaded to YouTube a lot like eleven years ago, and I downloaded it so that I now have a true copy of everything. So if if it gets scrubbed from YouTube or something, it'll it'll live on it. We'll figure out a way to get it out there. But you know,

so you've got two guys, Patterson and Grimlin Gimblin excuse me not grim Gremlin are out doing like horseback things. They're actually filming. You know, they did a lot of film related activities on horseback in the back countries and things of the high mountains in California, and so it was not uncommon for them to for to have a

little you know, video camera alongside, uh, making their films. And so they though at one point they like stumble across this entity, this creature that is walking hastily away from the area, you know, kind of constantly looking back to make sure that you know, I would think the way I interpret it is that they're not We're not

They're not trying to follow it. And it's sixteen elementar footage. It's kind of you know that kind of grainy, you know, kind of color film that you think about. But it's called you know Patty pH t t Y after the name the man's last name, and you know the tall that's that's what it is. Your half sasquatch. You just

didn't get the fur part. No, I did not. But the estimated height is around six to seven feet tall. Uh. And what was really interesting and I you know, when I I do for anybody that doesn't know, I do

a Space Out radio segment with Dave Scott twice a week where I talked about the UFO Report and back when it was the anniversary of this. We were talking about this film, and one of the things that Dave Scott pointed out is that if somebody was gonna if this was going to be a hoax, why would they

take the time to add breasts, Because there are noticeable breasts and several frames of the Passion Gimblin film are they bouncing? They did not appear to be their muscular rests. They're musky, but you know they're throughout indigenous traditions there are, you know, long traditions of a bigfoot type creature, often called tall man or hairy man or something like that.

And you know, the so the whole notion that that Bigfoot is new as of sixty seven, I think can be thrown out the window, you know, because it's been around. For Oh yeah, it's been around for a long time. In fact, when we all went to Campbellsville University, there was I raided the archives with a buddy of mine

and we found back in eighteen ninety eight at Green River the area of Campbellsville and all that stuff were two YETI sightings one one both of them said yetti because that was nobody called it bigfoot at the time. And I think Sasquatch is a relatively new return as well. But yeah, there were two YETI sightings within a couple

months of each other down in Green River in eighteen ninety eight Kentucky. Wow. So you know that kind of also means that the way we describe YETI today as being a white hairs esqualts may not be accurate, right, right, So you know evidence have been captured over the years since sixty seven,

plaster casts, hair samples, you hear howls and knocks and things like that, and forests. But there also have been a lot of hoaxes that people have perpetrated over the years as well, which just adds to kind of the general I think public confusion as to whether or not this is a real entity. But I would say, based

on my experiences and the people I've talked to, I would account it as probably something that is unquote real, you know what it is. If it's an animal, if it's an entity, if it's a spirit, I don't know, but it is a real aspect of the phenomena. I have a question for both of you. First though,

let me say, Stephan, don't feel bad Sasquatch and alopecia is a real thing. You know, you're just as valid. But I was thinking we're talking about proof now, like what other cryptid is quintessentially known for being blurry in photos? And so I like the fact that you know the thought that that's why we can't get certain UFOs because

space time is being bent. And then that sort of filling backwards would mean maybe that there are sasquatch, that they're interdimensional beings ultra terrest So my question to you is, when you think of sasquatch, do you think more caveman type stereotype of mind or advanced mind? I say advanced, Yeah, I'd say advanced to one there.

So there's a I know, Stephan. But we know the other opinion exists as well, creatures. Right, Stephan. I know you don't like Stargate SG one. Santosh, I don't know if you ever watched it or liked the series that was the Stargate spinoff. I've seen the movie and the series and the spinoffs.

Okay, So one of the episodes of Stargate SG one, towards the later part of the series, the encounter a species called the Knox, and the Knocks are seen as being primitive fashion. Not fascist. Sorry, that's the wrong way. Pacifist. Pacifist, that's very different. Yeah, primitive pacifists like live off the land type people. Okay, Uh, it's only uh several like

episodes after that where we see that the Knocks are actually technologically advanced, more advanced than anything that they've encountered up until that point, but they choose to not live within their technology. And so, you know, the same thing could be true of sasquatch. They may be more advanced than any et or X or you know entity that

we've ever encountered, and they just choose to not you know, live. Within how many how many humans are like that, right, let people live off the grid, the Amish, yeah, and so forth. So yeah, I mean it's just so I think that the whole notion that they're a hairy, you know, a

hairy beast in the woods with no discernible technology. Therefore they must just be an ape and they probably just act like an ape is probably our human hubris showing itself. Yeah, and uh, oh, I getting something coming in Josh, something's taking me over. I hate to say this, but I gave him permission. So hold on a second.

Hey, Hey, Josh, Hey, sayantysh, it's me in the Jersey gavel. Hey JD, I hope you've been doing well on your long sedary. I'm doing good. I've been having so much fun. I've been to the stars and bath. That's right. I went to Hollywood.

Should do a bus tour. I did all kinds of bus tours. I knocked on Richard Simmons doores, but he's gone. He should have done a piece. I'm gonna do a sauce. But I jumped into Stephan's body just so I could

take part of the twelve Days of Kryptimiss and tell you a little secret about Patty. Okay, Patty's a. Good friend of mine. We used to go out back in today. But I don't know if you know this, but she's actually just a plushy furry.

Oh I didn't know that. Mmm. She you can unzip that. Ah. She actually has sasquatch and alopecia, just like stuffing does. That's interesting to know. That's not all Yettie, that's not all task blanches. But

I tell you what, that's Patty. She's a pushy furry. She even has one that looks like Grimace. What what is she inside the suit? Well, she looks like a beautiful angel. Ah, a very large, beautiful angel, like that blonde woman from Game of Thrones.

All right, yeah, that sounds pretty fun. JD. I did not know that about Patty. I'm glad I do now. Yep, I'll be back with more kid bits. All right. Hey, looks like that's gonna be a thing today. All right, Yeah, well, make sure you drink lots of water. Yeah, I got a mountain dew.

Cool, and probably some mouthwash. Yep, probably some mouthwash. I don't know where JD's. Been, Yeah, with Patty apparently. Yeah, well he told me earlier he was at George Gloody's house, and you never know what's going to happen. And I just said he was glad he wasn't at

Diddy's house. You know that what I say? Yeah, well, Diddy's house is now made of stone and metal. Anyways. Anyways, so on to the next cryptid number two number two? Uh Mothman, ooh, Mothman. Yeah, still my favorite. Sorry Jo, I. Still will probably until the day I die, until the

day then I shuffle off this mortal coil. I will make the argument that he is not described as a. Moth oh for sure. Like, but it's so baked into social lore now that there is no changing it to Birdman. No, and there's already a bunch of bird men. Yeah yeah,

but yeah, I agree that. My favorite meme though, is Mothman Do Do Do Do Do Do to the ymca. Uh So, every time I think of Mothman as Birdman for some reason, I picture in my mind the blue Falcon from like the sixties cartoon.

Oh see, I just thought of bird Man. Yeah, that's Harvey Birdman. And it wasn't there a No, that was something else. The the guy who had like a wingsuit in the eighties. I don't know his name. You're talking about live action in real life?

Yeah, I don't know. There's a bird on rick Morning, Yeah, there is a Birdman on Ricky Morty. So anyways, Mothman aka Birdman. So basically November nineteen sixty six, we've actually done an in depth episode about Mothman, Santas. You were a part of it, and if you want to know more about mothmane you can go back and find that episode.

I'll also try to link to it in the description. We even went to point pleasant We did that picture came up of Santas sitting in the big Flatwood Monster's chair from when we went to flat the Flatwoods area too. Anyways, November nineteen sixty six. We have a lot of like a big ufo flat happening in the area, but also

witnesses of the birdman, and we also have this is related to the Silver Bridge collapse, which is why I think oftentimes mothmane is compared or considered to be like an omen which we. Talked about in the Last Show YEP. The show before Last YEP, and then John Keel wrote

a book in nineteen seventy five called Mothman Prophecies, which was picked up in two thousand and two for a film. But basically this uh you know, moll slash bird man was seen by many people and mostly around the T and T area uh in Point Pleasant. Side note, if you go to Point Pleasant and you go to the

T and T area, UH, and you go into one of the domes uh to conduct any type of investigation, perhaps don't put your back to the door to the doorway of the dome. It might be a dangerous situation and no no direct knowledge of doing such a thing. But yeah, so multiple witness reports they had you know,

he had red eyes, ten foot wings. Uh. The hypothesis of explanation is that it's an owl or a sand hill crane. I have never seen an owl that is reported to be as tall or have the wingspan of what that they're talking are Stephan our friend Keith Age. I think still believes it's the giant owl. Yeah, but yeah.

Because of that one picture of the bird from South America or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, there is an annual Mothman Festival. I we have not been to that. I don't think any any of the three of us. But the museum is awesome. If you get a chance to go to Point Pleasant

and check it out, you should. And the Mothman statues boote is something too. Yeah old. Yeah, he definitely does his squats. Man. I gotta tell you hate JB. I gotta tell you that booty is is is artists

rendered perfectly of Mathy's booty? Did they did they? Did? He sit down and they took a cast? Is that how he got it? Yeah? That's absolutely what happened. I was there. Who do you think provided the cast for him? Oh? I didn't, I didn't. How did you get him

to sit down. Well, I said, hey boy, sit good bye, and I gave him a treat. Oh he likes he likes mothballs. Mothballs, Okay, how did they get How do they get their little legs apart? The moths?

Well you pull them, okay, and then you suck them like a like an oyster shale. I just got an amazing visual. Yep, that's old coffee best But into business all right? How many moths does it take to feel satiated? Uh?

On mothballs? Yeah, I don't know. I'm back so okay, I don't know. I don't know. Sorry about that. That's all right. I'm never gonna get ready, I know. So yeah, they're getting ready to celebrate a big anniversary coming up soon mothman.

Yeah, well it would have already passed, no November. Yeah, so the Silver Bridge collapse yeah, will be sixty eight days. Yeah, well it's sixty Well, I'm just saying a big one, a numbered big one, because next year is twenty six. So okay, I got you can that be. Forty fifty sixty years?

Yeah? Wow? Well but yeah, and the silver Bridge collapse is December fifteenth. Yeah, so that anniversary is coming up. Yep, yeah, uh so. Yeah, And just as an aside, there is also the potential potential of Chicago Mothman that happened some years later. Lown

Strickler is very into that Chicago Mothman. Very adamant about it. Yeah. Yeah, And we saw, you know, when we were investigating it too, we saw, you know, some reports and things that were hanging out on fence posts and things that did appear to be somewhat moth man like.

Santosh and I saw some stuff hanging out on some fence posts. Yeah, oh, you drove right out of my mind. Don't forget that. The police told us that there that while we were out in the bunkers, uh exploring that the they had like a flap experience over the hospital, like

oh yeah, freaked out several of the patients. Yep, yep, I do remember that, yep. So Mothman. Yeah, that was what we got on the That's what we got on the second day of Christmas. Crypto Crypto number three, number three, uh three cabs that's trace Yeah, sorry, trace trace Troop of Cabrash. So first accounts of cheop of

Cabra in popular history. It's night in Puerto Rico. Madeline Talentino provides the best known early description, and then the media just picks it up and runs with it throughout the late nineties. It was I don't know if you remember not, but there was like a big episode of The X Files in one of the early seasons that

was all about the potential of it being a cheopicabra, you know, a thing. The skeptical inchoir picked it up, and so just a wave spread through you know, a Latin America in the US and two thousands into Mexico and Texas where they found carcasses of coyote. And I remember it all.

I remember the big chup ofcaba craze, and so then there's like this kind of image of like this spiky, alien, hairless thing that was running around and you know, draining the. Blood out of goats and sheeps and things, and it it really makes me wonder if all the tales of cheop of cabra are considered or should be considered as

a part of the overall just kind of general cattle mutilation cases also associated with UFOs. I don't know, that's a good question. Because maybe maybe you know, kind of like my theory around convergences where the UFO show up and they have EMF and that causes bleed through of other phenomena. Maybe

UFOs are in the area and then a cheop of cabra sucks the blood out of a goat or removes the you know, reproductive organs from a cow, and it's just assumed it was UFO. Well, I tell you what, y'ash, I already know the answer because I know a lot of troop of cobras.

They don't talk. They don't talk. You know why, because they're pet They're pets of the gray aliens. You about to say that jd Oh my gosh, it has to be true. I know we're sinking up. We're sinking up like we're

on the same period cycle. I tell you it's a pet. Yes they are. They are mutilating because they see their masters mutilating. But they don't understand that they're doing it for scientific purposes because they're just pets, so they just suck them dry. I you know that sounds plausible. I mean, we have pets.

Why wouldn't he teas? That's right. Have you ever talked to a chup oficipra? No, exactly, exactly, and it is a misnomer that they like tequiler. Oh they don't. They're vodka drinkers. Wow, didn't see them.

Yep, didn't see that coming, did you. More potato? Huh? Yep, more potato, tater over cactus. Okay, Well that's good to know. So, uh, if I feed my my livestock cactuses, they won't be appetizing to a chup of copper.

That's correct for once in your life. Josh, you're correct. A god a gobby, yeah, not not cactusesas same. Deafreads is also a cactus. So in New Jersey it's all the same. Ah. Okay, yeah, a cactus is a cactus up in Jersey.

Gotcha down in Jersey. We are in South Jersey, Santage. Okay, like South Beach area. Good night. I've only ever been to Long Beach. I've never been to at all. I have. I have been to Jersey. I did not

see you when I was there. He will not let me see his original home. So yeah, he's probably remodeling. I don't know. I don't know. I thought Jersey was was quaintly creepy. Do you remember the Freddy Krueger thing? Uh? One of the later movies

where they're trying to get out of the town and they just keep circling back around. Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's Greaty. Suburbs of Jersey made me feel that way. I'm like, and you drive from one one city all the way through the suburbs to another city and there's nothing but

houses in the city in between. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a it's an interesting state. It's actually pretty beautiful until you get to the cities. Like then it's gross. Sorry, everybody who lives in the city of New Jersey, the.

City of New Jersey. Yeah, even though apologize. Of New Jersey live in Trenton. Don't want to live in Trenton. Okay, I don't mean that. I love Jersey. It brought us. It brought us so many things. Mm hmm, don't ask me. I M snooky.

Other than j D. I can't think of anything. Oh you Hockey dated Snookie. Y'all know that I used to date Snooky. Yep, because you get around. I did get around. She was something else, man, I'll tell you what. She could eat a pizza in one bike.

So, uh, Snooky or or Patty Damn. I would say Patty yeah, I like, I like unzipping the fur. Yeah, that's another visual Patty wearing a snooky onesie. Yeah, and on that I'm gonna need five minutes alone. I bet you that. I bet you those hoofs called chafing.

Uh huh, he needs five minutes. Yeah, all right, number four or. As we're or third of the way through. Yay lockness, monster, good old NeSSI I feel like I should say that in Gaelic, but I don't know any how to say number four in Gaelic. So insert number

four in Gaelic here. Yeah, So basically first accounts April fifteenth, nineteen thirty three. The sighting was publicized though in May on May second in the Inverness Courier, and this was actually the first time that the word monster is also used to describe NeSSI in nineteen thirty four the surgeon's photo but later proven to be a hoax, and then

some sonar surveys twenty nineteen to twent twenty three. There's a massive interest that spikes massive, huge, huge, huge, and there's a big volunteer search with thermal drones and hydrophones and everything else. There's uh, santosh, you sent a picture once to our group chat of the potential of what NeSSI could be. Do you recall what that was?

Male Dix, I was gonna bring it up whale erections being like launted to the from the sea to the air. Because yeah, I don't remember what whale that was, but I think it was the blue whale. And they're there, Uh, their erections are are quite quite large, and they if if protruding from the water, could look like a head

with a neck. Right, because we know it's like have you have you seen any of the videos where now river alligators are learning to put their hands up and people think someone's drowning. So they've been getting people that way. No, no, oh my goodness.

Uh well, I mean you know, you got to learn how to trick your food source, I guess, and and and people are pretty dumb sometimes what else is the pain for? Like like, yeah, it's baked, it's. Bab so uh, basically they've got some there's a lot

of hoses, hoses, hoaxes, and there's a lot of a like misinterpretation of like logs and seals and sturgeons and seismic gas, which is seismic gas the uh nautical version of swamp gas. Yeah, I've had some seismic gas, but I was gonna say seismic gas is just the earth parting.

Well, but but it happens underwater, which causes a bubbling effect. So like, if you use seismic gas as an explanation of the locks and Knockous Monster, is that the equivalent of saying swamp gas as an explanation for you? I'd see what you're saying. Yeah, I would agree with that. Okay, they did. There was a there was a someone

who found some supposed DNA of the Lockedness Monster and when they tested it, it belonged to a giant eel. So whether or not the giant eel is Lockedness Monster, I don't know, but at least is. Where we were looking for. But maybe it's the one we deserve.

Right yeah right. What people have often though, imagined it to be is some long lost like prehistoric dinosaur that somehow survived the Ice Age and one hundred and sixty five million years plus of existence to reside and make its home lockedness. Yeah. And then like a Pleasiosaurs or Plastias sours or something.

Yeah, Flippersaurus or something like that, whipperper flipper. And I still love the theory that it was Alistair Crowley doing his uh invocation trying to summon a demon on Lockness that brought about the Lockness monster from anood. I mean it makes me wonder too about the possibility of like you know, the stone tape theory, where you know,

ghosts things get locked in like a cycle of time and they repeat on loop. Maybe there was a plesiosaur in that area, and this is we're seeing the ghost of the plesiosaur. I know, you know they say that all the time. They're always like, uh, if there's ghosts, where all the

ghost dinosaurs? Yeah? Maybe there you go, also aquatic creature and how much of our ocean have we really explored at this point? Yeah? Right, well, and and Lockness is like. Would be another gray pet the underseaing aliens at their

base maybe like we're like, let's let's read. Someo now saints you know that they are the horses of the sea. That's a kilpy I thought that is that is now, this is for the large tall whites they ride Nessie. Right, So there's underground bases. Yeah, there's underwater bases rodeos. Yeah, yeah, like a movie won'er like.

A movie called The Water Horse or something like that. Yeah, it was like a Nessy type thing. So yeah, the. Last Unicorn and those waves of horses where all the unicorns were trapped in the water. Get damn big red Bull. I'll tell you what. That's

why you should never drinking. It does give you wings. It's good stuff. It does. It does give you. Never drink red Bull if you're a if you're a unicorn, don't do it. Don't do it.

What I was gonna say, though, is on a potentially realistic note, because we know the Lochness is a very high elevation seat or you know, basically the lake left over from glacial melt. What if a plesiosaur was frozen in the glacier and then when it melted, it just deposited itself into the into the loch Ness.

There, like those frogs and crocodiles that can freeze over. Maybe not. So yeah, there you go, I've just solved it. Or like I believe, we've discussed that the Appalachian Mountains technically go all the way up in Britain. So maybe NeSSI is is like a forced dwelling river riding some

kind of homegrown something we could we could what if we have our own if there never mind, I'm like, what if there's a I would like to start search for the Kentucky Nessy. Right, the Kentucky Nessy. It probably lives in Green River.

It probably does live in Green River. Yeah, maybe that's what the the Ohio Beast was, Stephan. Yeah, the Claude Beasts of the Ohio was just just. A baby nessy. Yep, yep. Anyways, moving on to number five, number five, five Windy Goes. I'm just gonna keep it going. I'm just gonna keep it going. Uh So, the wind

to go, Stephan, you and I have talked about Windy Goes a little ways to go a couple of years ago, four years ago, something like that. And they are found in the belief systems of the Algonquin traditions, which is Algonquin is really known to be around the Kentucky Tennessee, uh you know, West Virginia area of the US. They

are malevolent, cannibalistic. They're often associated with winter and famine and also known as a culture bound syndrome when to go psychosis in historical psychric psychiatric literature. This is a folklore spiritual cautionary tale where modern modern antlered depictions are found in Hollywood. It is kind of a moral technology of survival, and it is found in indigenous teachings and

stories and also in pop horror trope. Yeah, and so when we talked about it before, you know, basically they they're more than likely a member of potentially like a witch doctor who has taken on a When to Go form because it it the witch doctor ate something ate a human and so that turned them into a cannibal

and a wind to Go and they are kind of cursed to stock the land looking for other humans to partake in. Yeah, definitely. I've always heard the cursed idea that whend It goes were once human. Yeah, so and something happened. I okay, this maybe maybe you need to cut this

out afterwards. But talking about like some of the racist bullshit that still exists in higher education, one of the earliest stories I'd heard of When to Go is that it was a tale against infanticide, but up from the closer to the Inuit people, and that it was like to drive people away from being like yeah, that's food,

but it comes at a cost. And so yeah, like the first early things i'd heard were wrapped up with infanticide, cannibalism, and a whole bunch of shame. Definitely heard. I definitely recall something in the back of my brain about infanticide as well. Well in regards to when to go.

Well, I mean it could be right it or hold over racist bullshit, but yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, well yeah, there's there's also a lot of aspect of colonialism, and how much of because most Indigenous tribes are relatively private and they don't share a lot of their oral tradition other than within the tribe itself. Who knows what you know,

what was told to some white guy and then that white guy just perpetuated a tail, right, so it could have also been a stay away from us or the wind to go will get you in an effort to, you know, to distance themselves from the colonial you know, invaders. So do you ever maybe in connections with not deer

and whind to go. I've never seen or heard it depicted as anything other than deer, yeah, with antlers and such, or I guess caribou too, but as cariboo a deer. I don't know, but yeah, but the whole not deer is all yeah, yeah, I said cryptid, right, But deers

are also very sacred I think in a lot of indigenous tribes, and can also be perceived. As bringers of knowledge or even omens. And so maybe that's also why it's often associated with a deer, because there's a spiritual, you know, entanglement if you will, with the entity or the or the story of the entity.

Yeah. I just typed in when to go into an image search and them happy, but not all of them. Well, and Stephan you said, in the early days of the pandemic, one of the times you came into my house, you were leaving at like two o'clock in the morning, you said you when to go in my backyard?

Yeah, it was either a wind to go or a deer standing straight up, which I know is possible. Yeah, but but why, I mean I did, I did get deer in my backyard in Kentucky. But why would one be standing in the middle of my backyard on it's just a square of legs?

Yep? Did I either of you watching the Venture Time the cartoon. A little bit? Yeah, a little bit. There's one episode where this deer that's been sort of this running gag of how weird. It is stands up and takes off its hooves and it has people hands underneath.

Horrible funny, that's weird. It's fun when to go. Right, We like Alistair from has Been Hotel is if they're borrowing that Windo go imagery as well. Yeah maybe because. He's buddies with the cannibals.

Yeah mm hmm, all right, moving on where at number six, number six, the Fresn Night Crawler. Theres No night Crawler. Boy, you don't rewind and sing that as part of the running gag. You've been got going. Six Fresno night Crawlers. So I have to go all

the way back down because normally you go, okay, okay. You just did fine, you did them before, you don't Yeah each time do you have to go back through? Yeah? Yeah. Since you're the one with the heart out, I think

you should make it much more complicated for yourself. So Fresno Night Crawler basically on some CCTV in two thousand and seven they captured too spindily walking pants Glad across a Fresne lawn. Oh it's the pants monster. Yeah records, you know. So in two thousand and seven,

Jose Records from a CCTV monitor. The original tape was reportedly lost. A second shorter e clip surface later in a PBS monstrum breaks it down and basically it is just kind of a low res video of these just legs walking across the landscape. I think they look like teeth. And now I'm gonna

say that these are the minions of the Tooth Fairy of the Tooth. Yeah, I didn't know they were called the Presdo Nightcrawl. I always just called them the pants Monster. So, but isn't there didn't Disney do a movie that was moderately received called Onward where they had to like

take their dad, who is like just pants happen in a pair of pants? Yeah? Yeah? So did Disney get the idea for that movie from The Fresno Nightcrawler and the Presdo Nightcrawler. Hey, y'all, let me tell you right now, Okay, some of us like to wear a pair of pants that

look like teeth? Hello? Why can't it be both? Hello? You? Things are rarely one thing? Am I? The pants you're looking for? Does it matter

the type of pants? What? What other type of pants is there? Josh? But just the kind you wear on your leggings zip sweatpants. Well, what about like, uh, stretch stretchy leggings that are just pulled over your shoulder?

Right, Oh, I've done that. I have done that. Do you have cutouts in the back of your wings? Cutouts for everything? Josh? And I've got antlers and you ain't once called me a wind to go? Well, whind it goes aren't usually described as having wings, so that's why I excluded you.

From it winged when to go? W W? Do you have a cousin? I have all sorts of cousins. So the w W cousins. That's a Louisville, Kentucky joke, Josh. Nobody's gonna get it. At least three people will get it.

I'm surprised JD knew that it was a Louisville, Kentucky joke. Yeah, well, because he stalks you, he. Does stalk me. But yeah, that bad. I like the Nightcrawler. I think that's super creepy. And now that Santosha said it looks like teeth, I can't not see it a st. And also made me wonder if like maybe it's like

a half manifestation of a spirit and all you get is the lower half. Right, okay, all right, I see what you did there. Or like that that really famous cartoon of the ghost that's doing the walk and the sing and the dance. It's in black and white.

Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about, Like the old the Disney the Disney cartoon was the Skeletons. No, but I don't I don't know if it's just a. But yeah. I think it was just like a ghost or whatever. And wasn't he wasn't he? Basically like they were drawing

over a performance of Oh I had his name and then I forgot it bugle player singer. No shot? Are you talking about that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I had his name and I lost it.

Yeah, I can't. Yes, Cab callaway, Herbie and cook. All right, So moving on to number seven, we have the oh sorry Santas seven mo kill Membies. All right. This is a publican base. M O K E l E m b E m

b E. I've spelled it. I pronounced it the best that I can. It's from the Congo basin. Okay, okeybe something like that. It has. This is a creature who can stop the flow of rivers. Oh, they helped vampires Yeah, how does that help vampires cross running streams? And yeah, and look at look at what we've discovered

is that all cryptids have well paranormal entities, love having pets, especially love having pets. Yeah. So the first accounts of it were mid twentieth century writers. In the seventies and eighties biologist Roy mccow, the name is often glossed as the rivers stop being phrase. Numerous expedition claims so far no variable, no verifiable specimens,

but eyewitness tails and some ambiguous tracks support the potential of this creature existing. Some of the theories are that they are misidentified hippos. I don't know how you would misidentify a hippo, but and also that it is cultural myth filtered through dinosaur pop culture. But yeah, they apparently can offer a quick primer on river acoustics and wake patterns,

and they can stop a river from flowing. Yeah, this kind of looks like the picture I'm looking at kind of looks like a small messy. Yeah, right, that old brontosaur time thing. Yeah, I've seen one that looks like a looks like a long necked hippo. And that's a little extra frightening. I'm glad you said

the hippo thing, because I was like, somebody's just trying to make it crazy looking. What if it's just so big that it sits across a river and blood. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was about to say. It's it's damn good at its job. I thought I

would have I would elicit a response from j D on that horrible pun, but. He said, nope, Yeah, he's taking another five. Yeah, he's he's still thinking about Patty and a you know, in a whatever furry thing. All right, Moving on number eight. A beast of Bray Road.

Yes, beast of Bray Road. East of Bray Road. This is in Wisconsin, or as they say, in Wisconsin, Wisconson nineteen ninety one. Newspaper coverage by Linda Godfrey reports the report stretched back locally to the nineteen thirdays Third Days and all I said, like that thirties, but it's like Holland Days, Third Days anyways.

But the modern flap is from the eighties to the nineties and god frees two thousand and three book. It consolidates witnesses accounts and sporadic reports and documentaries, and some of the theories are that it is a tulpa or an eggergre from local lore shape shiffer type myths, and it is often described as a cool.

What kuala a koala please say koala? Yeah? A koala? No? No, it is just a case nine biped so like a like a wolf yeah. Yeah, given given given large werewolf.

Yeah. And it can supposedly go from b to biped to also walking on all fours if necessary. And it is usually seen on dark rural roads. So yeah, uh dog man a k a beast of bray road. So so many We've talked about this before, Stephan. So many of our names for cryptids are really based on where

and when they are seen. Mm hmm. But the descriptions are pretty universal across Like all cryptids may be just the same four cryptids seen in different locations. That's bullshit. No, there there is a pleth of cryptids. Some of them just happened to be cousins.

Oh okay. Well, and to keep this thread going, one of the images I just saw, it's basically a furry exactly. I wasn't gonna say it. I wasn't gonna say it, but I know the beast ray wrote, his name is Brandon. Branding.

And I'm not gonna say whether or not he's zipping up or zipping down or what, but I just tell you he he he's just got anger issues. Oh if he's. Harving on bullets, well we're okay. If he feels misunderstood, I can see that, you know,

being the. Case, he's misunderstood. Everybody thinks that he's some sort of special beast and that they gave him an ego. He's just a one who wolf. I mean, you know, he doesn't get to pick the names that humans giving. So man, it's unfortunate.

Yeah, and everybody for a while was called him by because they said he was a biped. He didn't like that at all. He's straight. M I'm sorry to hear that about Brandon. I hope that. I hope that he can seek counseling. Sounds like he could use somebody to talk.

I know many good therapists in West Canton. Yeah, does Brandon like cheese? He's a carnivore, Josh, Oh. He's a carnivore. Okay, so he only eats carnies. Just go home, Just go home, Josh Santash and I will take over and we will make the show grating.

First thing we're doing is calling creepy catch up again. Yeah, hell yeah, I want no interrupted transmutations. Mm hmm. Okay. So moving on, uh number nine on the list, number nine, Dover Demon. Ooh, the Dover Demon behind Dover Demon.

Yep, there you go, thank you Santas. So this is in Massachusetts, Massachusetts, and it's. First sorry, what often described as a pale figure and orange eyes unblinking. It's kind of on the smaller side and all, I mean, I think the Dover Demon looks an awful lot like the the Brazilian and.

I was thinking of the same thing. I couldn't remember the name of that, but yeah, the Virginia, Yeah, Virginia or yeah, whatever it was, Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, it's uh, I mean, other than the only difference between the two is that the Dover Demon is described as being pale and the Virginia entity was

like a brownish or red skin. But you know, there are different skin types for humans, so why wouldn't there be pigmentation for other things? So sure you gotta, I mean, if you're up in Massachusetts, you got to deal with the snow. Yeah. Well, and especially if it's like some sort of

a camouflage activity, right, so you're more likely to blend in, like I said in the snow, so the uh. The first sighting was April twenty first, nineteen seventy seven, when headlights in a vehicle were just sweeping across a stone wall and they saw this thing kind of standing against it. Again, camouflage maybe, you know, but it's orange eyes is what

stood out. There were three teams involved, also three teens that discovered the Virginia thing, so just pointing that out too. But you've got Bill Bartlett, John Baxter, and Abby Brabham. Oh, good old Bradham. That's my favorite kind of ham to eat at the holidays. So you got three independent team reports, no follow up cases.

Somebody said it might have been a moose calf. That seems I mean, I guess it's plausible, but I don't think anybody would mistake a moose calf for anything, you know, other than a moose calf, especially if you live in an area where moose are common. It's the polar moose. Mease, no, it's moose, okay?

Sign Does anybody else also feel that he looks kind of like that old indie comic Bone. Yeah, it does kind of look like Bone a little bit. Yep. Also kind of similar to other than the ears, kind of similar to the Hopkinsville Goblin. Yeah, a little bit. But yeah, minus the ears.

Minus the ears. I mean, he could have had a beanie on. It is cold, it is cold. Yeah. But if he was just a sick and gray and that's why his eyes were all orange. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe grays only have black eyes when

you look at them. When you shine a flashlight at him, Yeah, they go orange, they go orange. Or maybe like the movie about Travis Balton, like their astronaut suits look like grays, but they're really something else underneath. Yeah, they're really just the dover demon underneath.

Yeah, there you go. We're solving all the cases, guys, I really appreciate it. We're finishing off twenty twenty five by solving all the crypto cases. Take that, Ken Gearhart. New Cryptids in twenty twenty six. All right, Number ten lizard men yay, the lizard Man

of scape or swamp in South Carolina. So, in Bishopville, South Carolina, at approximately two am in nineteen eighty eight, persons stopped to fix a flat tire and a seven foot tall red eyed thing rush the car. Rush. The car yep had scales and so was dubbed the

lizard Man escape or swamp. Some of these depictions that I see remind me very much of the creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, oh, I was thinking from the one that Captain Kirk fought. Oh yeah, the Gorn.

Yeah. By the way, that the new Gorn much scarier than the old Gorn. Oh yeah, the new Gorn is awesome. Yeah. So in in my some of my detail here, I have a potential misidentification. And it's interesting the way it was given to me. It says gator slash human

in a costume. So does that mean that gator was in a costume. Or it's another furry. I think we're bring something here. It's interesting, y'all say it about the Gorn because I have watched some gornography. Let me tell you, lots and lots of ornography, and it is there was a lizard

man and every one of them. Just come, I'm gonna take five more minutes. Okay, just on a very serious note. Okay, I'm gonna be one hundred percent serious with you. Here are people who dress up in lizard costumes still considered furries. Yeah, or would they be scalies mm hmm that's even

more accurate. Yeah, mm hmmm, sort of like furry is the family and then gus. Yeah, the genus is uh is scalies. The genus is like the Cloacah, take five minutes. I think we all need to take five minutes now, So all right, number eleven eleven eleven hools.

No, you can't use the five golden rings. That's not how that song goes eleven? How does it go eleven? Eleven? Hools? It just doesn't have the same fun vibe of Java, Indonesia. There you go, add a little add on. So the hole.

A h o o l oh. We covered h J D covered that on his cryptid of the week. Did uh, this is a It has wings. If I had wings, I would fly. Let me contemplate potentially almost like a giant bat looking entity.

And that's why some people say it's a misidentification of a giant bat. But if that's the case, it's a giant frickin' bat. And like I would not want to little this is like Batman, but when he turns into. Man bat, well, he doesn't turn into man. There's another character called man bat but yeah, yeah, yeah,

it was spider Man that temporarily turned into an actual spider Man. Yes, yes. In the nineteen nineties cartoon m So, this is often attributed to naturalist. Is a naturalist another name for a newdist Yeah not anymore. Well if you know this, but I'm a naturalist. I have not worn clothes since you've made me model

for that shirt that Stefan's wearing. I wore a hat. Is hat is a hat considered clothing? Yes, how were the sunglasses? Okay, what's in your cup in that shirt? You think? We don't talk about it, But it was not vodka

or tequila. There you go. Yeah, so often attributed naturalist Ernest Bartels in the nineteen twenties reports of a giant bat over waterfalls and river valleys. Name said to mimic the call, so the call would make be Oh. There you go.

Now we're back to the overgrown owl theory. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, Oh it's just I mean, maybe all owls say a whole And because we're American, we dropped the We dropped the south in the valet at the front, like oh, possum, We just say possum. You know.

So it's like, oh, it's just you know, like Goofy falling all the time. Right, That's that's where Disney was inspired I think for for the Goofy character. Yeah, yep, everybody's wonders is Goofy a dog? Is?

What is he? He's in a hool, He's in a hole. He's he's the rare wingless a hoole. Yeah, unlike the a hole that we can be. Yeah, all right, Number twelve, Number twelve, Number twelve, twelve Mintus Men twelve man tis Man, mantis man. This mantis mantis man is from New Jersey, so I'm

sure JD knows him well. I don't want to talk about it. Sorry, it didn't realize we touched on a sore top. Just shut up, right because dayton one of them comes with its risks. It is a praying mantis, I tell you right now.

And this chit tried to cut off my head and plant babies inside me. I don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry. I can. I see that there's trauma there. There is so much trauma. I'm gonna take it home to my mama.

What separates this this mantis man from the mantids of like extraterrestrial lord. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. That was the first thing that jumped out at me, is that I think this is a cryptid that may also be an ET, and then the ET may also

be encrypted. M hmmm. I mean if if they're ET is doing uh, extracurricular activities on Earth, maybe maybe they need like, you know, a local counterpartner, and so they they they conscripted the mantis man to help them in their extracurricular activities, right right,

So this is uh, this comes from Hackett's town from around twenty eleven to twenty fifteen. Descriptions a seven or six to seven feet tall mantis like thin, brown green seen near water. And yeah, maybe so the uh the misidentification here is mantis paradoia paradoia. Where you see mantic creatures and everything.

Yeah, I guess I can understand us having the biological prerogative to see humanoid faces. I find that that now that we also have a tendency for big manted faces. We're mutating. Maybe we are the manted men.

Maybe what we're containers of is juicy nougat. Maybe I know, she thought, I was filled with nugat. That's for sure, Ted nugget. No, this is not funny, Josh, this is my trauma. I'm sorry, j D. I did not mean to make light of your trauma.

Thank you. Okay. So some of the more esoteric theories is that it could be a river guardian m or it also could actually be an insectoid et projection. So it just projects that it is a minute not a minute man, mantis man, a mantis man, but actually it's something else entirely.

Could be an elemental. Yeah, could be, could be a lying spirit. Could be, could be. So those are the twelve cryptids of Cryptidness. How there? You not even mentioned the Jersey Devil. Well, I was hoping you might appear, so there was

no reason to include you in the list. You're a guest. I am like the lost sign of astrology. I am the thirteenth cryptid. There you go, Jersey Devil is the thirteenth cryptid of the twelve slash thirteen days of Cryptiedness. Amen, brother Well, tell us.

A little bit about yourself, Jersey Devil. I can't. I gotta take five minutes. Oh okay, you got time with a furry slash scaly person. Yes, Patty has just given me a call. She said, I want to be warm and snugly for Christmas. Oh, there you go. So you're gonna get her snuggie.

No, I'm gonna be her snuggy. Ah. So you're okay with Patty putting things inside of you? Just not Manta. No, it's not funny, Josh, I swear to the gods, it's not funny. Okay, am out of here.

Thank you all so much for letting me take over Stepan's body and talk to. You all for a little bit. But I gotta go find Patty. We start our own podcast and be successful. There you go.

I believe in us. Go for it. Bye. Ope, I don't hear you for eleven more months. Gone. Dang, that's rough. Yeah. So, like I said, make sure you drink luch of electrolate water, some mouthwash, the mouthwash.

Some protein. That good, Josh? Thank you? Yeah, there we go. Thank you. Twelve days of cryptid mess. That was excellent. Any final remarks before we jet out of here. I would just like to say anybody who is celebrating

any holiday over the next three weeks, I hope you have a good time with anybody that you're going to be celebrating on a holiday with and that you're safe and well, you know, we'll get into some new things in to next year. Yeah sounds good. I was gonna also remind people, you know,

you can always send us your stories, you know, any UFO sightings, cryptids, especially now cryptid sightings since we're talking about it, but cryptis ghosts, anything like that, you can email us at. The Shadows Signal Podcast at gmail dot com dot Oh now we're gonna get sued, damn it.

Santa Stenny. Final remarks, good time, enjoyable. We figured it all. Out, solved, solved it all, solved it all and calls the closers the closers. I like that, the crypti closers. I would watch the hell out of That.

Would be an awesome TV show. The Cryptied closers do do do? All? Right, Well, let's he's a special investigator. He is, he is, He's in Hollywood, he's got the connections, so yeah, he could make it happen.

So he's got to carve out time with Patty though. He does, he does, but she's out in California too. So anyways, let's go ahead and get out of here. Thank you again Santosh for joining us for this very special Christmas Cryptid Christmas Holiday special. Thank you to Jad for joining us. It's been a while. It's good to

hear from you and Josh is always a pleasure, So thank you' all. To our audience for listening. Thank you guys so much for tuning in to the Shadow Signal Podcast. This has been stefan uh, stay close to the shadows and listen for the signal. This has been Josh. Enjoy your mothballs.

This has been Santosh, and I still don't have a closing line. Good night everybody, good night M HM.