Cast Out — The Exorcism and Murder of the Ossett Case (1974)

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How are you, sir. I'm doing I'm doing pretty well. Man. You know, it's it's busy. It's summertime. My kids are out of school. They're pestering me every day, getting on my last freaking nerve. And then we got you know, stuff coming up for them, dance recitals and whatnot, basketball games and all this kind

of stuff, and it seems, you know, it's nice to be busy, but at the same time, sometimes I just want to sit on my ass and play video games. You know what I'm saying. I completely agree. I understand. I got my daughter is now in dance class on Wednesdays.

Plus I still got improv I've got everything under. The moon stuff going on, and we uh yeah. And then we had celebrated the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of. Independence Day this past week. The day we wrote our Dear John letter to England.

Yep, yep, yep. It worked out for us. I guess we'll see, we'll see. It's an ongoing experiment. It's an ongoing experiment. Anyways, we got a great episode for you guys tonight. But to kick things off first, we're going to start,

as always with the psychic word of the week. The Psychic World. Oh oh. Psychic Word of the Week is brought to you by the Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary by doctor June G. Blitzer. That's right, PhD. I love you, honeybuton I miss you and I never

even knew you. One of these days, I swear I will get the Ouiji board out and I will contact you to see if you've got any updates on your Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary. So, but anyways, I flipped through the pages landed on page six hundred and sixty, and the term that I landed on today, Josh is called up

for grabs. That sounds like one of those money money things where you like, it's like the booth, but the swirling money. Oh yeah, like the shoe Carnival used to. Yeah, and you like, you get in there and you're like, you can grab whatever you can grab and shove it

into various places, and then that's what you want. That's probably not what it is. I don't want to shove that into various. Psychic you shove it into psychic places. No, here's here's what. Here's what doctor Bletzer said. She said, up for grabs is to leave one's psychic

doors open in everyday activity. When done without proper preparation and choice of time and place, it exposes one to psychic attacks from other psychics, knowingly or unknowingly, and from the etheric world inferior and earth bound entities. Frequently results in illnesses, fatigue, and erroneous information. So yeah, So, so basically, when we talk about shielding

and grounding and doing that as a part of a daily practice, everybody who doesn't do that, they're open to just all the credit. They've left their energy up for grabs. Yeah, where's pee wee herman to yell the word of the day.

I'm sitting in my cherry right now. Is that where you put the dollar bills in all of the orifices? But yeah, I mean that that. You know, I think last episode was shielding or the episode before, So it's interesting that that's what was popped up.

It's almost like, uh. Doctor Bletzer is trying to remind us that we need to shield, we need to take care of ourselves psychically so that we don't get attacked. Well. And it's not like, you know, a lot of people think, you know, I'm not psychic, but everybody is

to some degree, and so you know, maybe you don't maybe don't think about it as being psychic. Maybe just think about it as like being you're leaving one of your senses right open, yeah, open, you know right? You know you would protect your hearing, uh, you you would protect your eyes if doing something that where your eyes

are in danger. So, I mean, everybody's gone to a party before and found themselves, even if they just sat there on their phone the whole time, found themselves completely drained. By the end why you're drained of energy, which means you believe in energy.

Yeah, so yeah, ye. And that's why we need to shield so you're not so drained. That's right, that's right. So don't don't leave your stuff up for grabs. You know. Uh, if you're a if you're a Harry

Potter fan, Uh, really easy cast your patronas mm hmmm. That could be a form of shielding. You could make it fun, you know, whatever you need it to be. It doesn't have to be all woo all the time, you know. Uh, you can make it whatever you need it to be. You could pretend that there's a force. Yeah,

you could pretend that there's a your patronus is sitting there and the never anybody's attacking you for energy instead they get your patronas, you know whatever. Ye, but yeah, you can make it fun so it doesn't have to be all I don't believe in the woo stuff. Well, you know, then you're gonna constantly be drained at the

next party to yep, or. Just by grandma when she comes over for tea yep, or that talking to you about Marianne or that one co worker. Oh yeah, man, what if you're that one co worker. Oh yeah, man, well but I but I shield, so

hopefully I'm not actually fucking the life force out of anybody else. Yeah. Do you shield both ways or just one? I don't really go both ways, so. Personal prefer tell that to your cherry. All right, Well, let's move on.

I don't think we have any interrupted transmissions this week, this month. Uh you know, just like I said, there's a lot going on. We even try to look up some spooky news. There's not a lot going on normal either. So now you know, it's possible that all the spooky

stuff that would have been in spooky news in the past is all just kind of commonplace now. And so yeah, maybe that's why nobody really reports on it as being spooky stuff. I don't know, but yeah, it just seems to be uh slow, It's just it's a slow point. It's the slow point before the veil starts thinning though,

and then stuff will start just pick to pick up. Yeah. Uh, well, I guess Donald Trump thought he talked to Teddy Roosevelt. That was pretty woo. Yeah I didn't see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said he had a full conversation

with Teddy Roosevelt. Interesting. Interesting, anyways, google that one. Have fun. Yeah, all right, Well, since we don't have anything going on, let's just go ahead and move on to our very interesting main topic this month.

Done main story. Yeah, all right, so sway what we got the main event? All right, so we're going to be talking about the very odd case that happened in Osset, which is a Yorkshire town. It basically is the kind of sorry in England. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think there's a Yorkshire in the

in the US. I mean, there's like our friend the theologian, his his childhood home was in Yorkshire, but that was a neighborhood. So I don't think. I don't. I don't think that was would be considered. But anyways, see, on the morning of October sixth, nineteen seventy four, a police officer in the quiet Yorkshire town of Ossit came upon

a site he said he'd never forget. A man naked, drenched in blood, wandering the street in silence. Inside the high house behind him. His wife was dead the night before. A church had tried to drive the devil out of him and they failed. Mm hmmm, yep, I know this case. Yep, Yeah, this

is a messed up case man. Yeah, and you know we're gonna get into it a little bit towards the end, but there's like a lot of like kind of questions around, you know, like ethical accountability, you know. But well, you know, we'll get there a little bit. So we got Michael Taylor, who is thirty

one years old. He lived in the Havercroft district of Asset in West Yorkshire with his wife Christine and their five children. Friends and neighbors described the family as cheerful and happy. You know, it's always like that. He was such a quiet, happy type, you know. Yeah, I mean yeah, rarely are you ever like, yeah,

this guy was destructive. From the get go. The very first day that I'm mety, I knew he was going to be an axe murderer. Like no one ever says that. No, But you know, it's like this book I'm reading right now.

It's not an it's a fiction book, but it's about possession and things like that. And you know that's one thing the demon talks about, or the priest in there talks about, is that demons want to find people that are good and everything is good, because that is more destructive. Well, yeah, if you're if your if your goal is

to create chaos, then taking someone who is as far from chaos as possible and then creating chaos with that person. I imagine the energetic exchange that's happening there. Yep. So needless to say, I think the uh, the lesson here is as if you want to not be possessed, be chaotic.

Yeah, be a great Jedi's Yeah. So he was often described as being mild mannered, kind and a loving father and husband. It was noted that he sometimes was prone to minor like bouts of depression, which was stemming from a severe back injury he had sustained several years earlier, which kind of left him in like this chronic pain situation.

That'll do it, especially back then. Yeah, the Tailors were not deeply religious, but in nineteen seventy four they sought a community and found it in a local Christian Fellowship group, which was kind of described as a charismatic prayer group that was kind of put these things in motion, right, which you know, I kind

of wonder like if we've had a lot of discussion in the past around you know, the possibility of you know, things being demonic versus just being you know, lower energetic, vibrational beings that you know, in our religious construct we label them demonic. But regardless of what it is, there's always in religion, there's always this notion that demonic entities

cannot enter a church. However, given how much, how much so many churches face in the form of just really you know, bad actors on the people who are involved in the church, work at the church, lead to church, whatever the case to be, makes you wonder if the church is really that sacred place that you know, religion

portrays it as. Yeah, so maybe this prayer group, you know, was not so safe in the first place. Well, you know, especially you know this was was this Anglican or Catholic? I can't remember, uh, either way. I think it's Catholic because they tried to do an exorcism.

Well the Anglicans would do that as well, they're they're essentially the Episcopalians. Well the name of the church is Saint Thomas's, so still yeah, it could be. But anyways, regardless, like either of those aren't very charismatic, and you try to throw in charismatic evangelical style into

that type of religion where demons are heavily. Uh you know, a part of that it can turn crazy, right. You know, did you know is it is it a situation perhaps where the further are not furthered the fervor. Fervant belief in demons gives them a foothold to right, you know, exist or to thrive. So anyways, so Michael

threw himself into the prayer group. He attended every meeting, every function. You and I growing up in a youth group in a church. You know what this means, right, yep. It's almost like you have such a want to be a part of something meaningful that you just you throw every ounce of what you have into it.

Oh yeah, I mean, for example, I grew up Catholic and then I became Southern Baptist. When I met you guys, joined that youth group and got very charismatic. And that, you know, to be honest, that gave me. A massive fear of demons and things like that. Like I was extra scared.

I would go to sleep at night just scared because yeah, they'd say for every demon, there's two angels, you know, but that meant there was still one hundred demons in the room. Yeah, you know what not to get too far off topic here, but I think it's really interesting that a

lot of like, you know, Catholic churches have gargoyles. Gargoyles are often depicted in a way that you know, the more charismatic faiths would call demons. But it's interesting that in a lot of those Catholic churches, that old Catholic churches, those gargoyles are there to protect the church. So it's like, are they demonic or just because something looks, you know, menacing,

does that necessarily make it demonic? So yeah, I don't know. I would love to talk to some you know, Catholic historian person sometime to figure out like where all that comes from. But anyways, yea, so he, like I said, he started going to every meeting. He quickly fell deeper

into the tea of a Marie Robinson, who was a lay preacher who was attending those meetings where group members were exercised and demons were cast out. So it's like you go to a preyer group. When you're there, you meet somebody who's even more charismatic than their pre group and they tell you, hey, you might have a demon.

I'm gonna cast that demon out of you. It's kind of like when you go like a new age place and somebody's like, oh, it looks like you've got a negative entity attached to you. I'm going to go ahead and get rid of that thing for you. So it's kind of like, oh, that's cool. However, when you really

think about it, it'd be the same thing as like you go to the grocery store and this guy walked up to you and he's like, oh, it looks like you have a cyst on your arm and just whips out a pocket knife. It's like, let me take care of that for you, right, Like, really think about you know,

we're talking about the whole idea of energy and stuff before we got into the topic, really think about like how who you let operate on you energetically. You know, I didn't even. Think about how the psychic word was going to relate. But yeah, I mean it's like Michael's already leaving himself

up for grabs. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I ain't no money booth in this one though, Nope, energy booth. M So anyways, Marie Robinson began offering private meetings to Michael, during which the two would sit across from each other making the sign of the Cross, sometimes for eight or more hours, in

a ritual they believed would nullify the evil power of the full moon. It's it's amazing, how much how much like pagan stuff, And we're, you know, remembering that that pagan just means anything that's not Christian, But how much like just non non Christian's spiritual related practices influence people who are of the very charismatic faiths as being like

those things are evil or whatever. But in all actuality, most of the Christian faith probably has a lot of its root in those pagan practices. But anyways, so Christine Taylor, that's Michael's wife, told the group that she believed Michael's relationship with Robinson was carnal in nature. Michael admitted he felt evil within him and was encouraged to work the

issue out with Robinson. The two entered a bedroom alone, where Taylor made a pass at Robinson and was rejected. Robinson then related his behavior to the group, including his wife, and Taylor verbally attacked Robinson, who screamed back at him. The episode of jealousy, rejection, and public humiliation appeared to mark a turning point, which it would yeah yeah. Yeah.

During the next meeting, Michael received an absolution, but his behavior continued to become. More erratic, right because this dude was essentially ready to lose his wife. Yeah, he but then in the spirit of the group, he had to come clean, to confess everything, and then he's embarrassed.

He's like twofold, twofold because she said no, that whole you know, that whole idea around the public confession is just so weird, like, you know, it's weird, Like, hey, guys, I gotta confess I went to Whitecastle, you know. Like yeah, anyways, that was an inside joke for anybody who's listening. So anyways, uh So, the church's leaders gathered

and concluded that Michael was the victim of demonic possession and needed to undergo an exorcism. And I did look up the Saint Thomas's is Anglican. Okay, not Catholic. I mean, honestly, this feels not Catholic, this whole thing. But I mean, like I said, Anglicans, not far from it.

I mean they're very similar. Yes, but like typically you in a Catholic church, you would have confessed to a priest, not to your prayer group. Oh exactly, and you would have to get permission from the diocese. And yeah, so all kinds of crazy stuff. So, you know, Michael is convinced that he was possessed

by more than forty demons. Oh legion, here we come, and church leaders summoned him to a prayer meeting. On October fifth, nineteen seventy four, Father Peter Vincent and Reverend Raymond Smith met Michael at Saint Thomas's Church in Gawber. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Yeah. The prayer group was also in attendance. How weird is that, Like, you

you're going to an exorcism and your entire prayer group is there. I mean it's like talk about laying yourself bare. Yeah. And what's interesting too is Reverend Raymond Smith was a Methodist clergyman. So yeah, really mixing stuff up here. Yeah, you know, next thing, you know, a guy got the kid down

for seven to eleven. He's got he's got his own religion. It's seven eleven heaven. There you go. Over the next eight hours, they performed the sacred rite of exorcism. Now seem like I always thought exorcism was

something that could only be done by Catholic Church, kind of like you can't call it champagnunless it's made for that specific area in France. Yes and no, Yes and no. I mean if you look at the Warrens, the Warrens were. Kind of given special permission to exercise demons. But no,

technically any religion can exercise a demon, but traditionally it's Catholics. But yeah, and I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but I remember this from when I was researching this that among the forty demons, they were like specifically like sin demons, So they were like incest, peciality, blasphemy, lewdness, gluttony. You know, like yeah, stuff like.

That, those type of deadly sin demons. So yeah, I don't have that in my research, but thank you for including that. Oh actually I do have that. It was in the next paragraph. Oh there we go, there we go. See yep. So uh. When they started doing this ride of extricism, Michaels began thrashing, convulsing, and

spitting and he had to be tied to the floor of the church. A crucifix was jammed into his mouth. Oh my god, and he was completely soaked with holy water. So Here it is. The priests claim the ceremony had managed to identify around forty demons inhabiting Michael's body, representing traits such as incest, pciality, blasphemy, ludness. Here is the

massacre and carnal knowledge, each allegedly dragged out, kicking and screaming. By eight am on October sixth, the priests could not continue. They were exhausted. They stated that they had cast out more than forty demons, but that the exorcism would have to be finished at a later date. They advised Michael not to worry. Only three demons remained to be exercised murder, madness,

and violence. You know, just three, just three easy ones. You know, why can't you leave beast reality? You know what's the harm there? Yeah? You know, some goat loses this virginity. I mean, you know, worse things than happened. See, So they sent Michael and his wife Christine home. At home, Michael turned on his wife Jeez, and in an especially

brutal attack, he tore Christine's eyes and tongue out with his bare hands. Jesus then killed and dismembered the couple's dog dog, jes A police officer was among the first on the scene and is reported to have said, you don't want to see this one, son. I've seen nothing like it before, and I've seen a few.

Taylor was wandering around right at this point after he kills his wife, and Taylor was apparently stayed in there and stayed in there. So Taylor was found by police naked in the street, covered in blood Jesus. He told investigators that the exorcism and previous night had failed. He said, quote, they were

too late. He said, I was compelled by a force within me to destroy everything living within the house. All that's interesting. So Michael Taylor is obviously arrested. He's charged with the murder of Christine Taylor and remanded to Broadmoor Secure Hospital in Berkshire to await trial. He was reported to spend most of his time in silence or sleeping.

The case became immediate sensation. A horror such as this belonged in fiction, and the bloody crime, coupled with the background of exorcism and alleged demonic position, possession drew huge amounts of interest. The defense did not argue possession. The defense lawyer cast blamed squarely at the feet of the prayer group and the priests, stating that the group had

exacerbated an already cracking mind and calling the whole episode neurotics feeding neurosis to a neurotic right. Michael Taylor was acquitted at trial due to reasons of insanity. Surprise they left that demon in there so yep. He received psychiatric care for four years before being released back into the public.

Jeez. So. Michael Taylor was eventually released from Broadmoor after being deemed no longer a danger to the public. He expressed deep remorse for Christine's death and maintained that he had no memory of the attack. Rie Robinson and the fellowship group disbanded surprise surprise. The ministers involved defended their actions,

maintaining that Taylor had been genuinely possessed and that the murder was the work of the demons they had failed to expel. The case sparked debate in England about the practice of exorcism. The Church of England subsequently issued guidelines requiring that any exorcism be conducted only with the authorization of a bishop and with proper medical and psychological assessment beforehand.

Whether Michael Taylor was possessed by super natural evil or the demons of mental illness. The ritualistic treatment he received failed catastrophically. The case remains a cautionary tale about the intersection of religious belief, psychological distress, and violence. Yep, and even the Catholic Church. This is where the Catholic Church I agree with that Catholic Church always puts

out there first to try to find out psychologically things first. I mean, we know that he had chronic pain, he had bouts of depression. And remember correctly too, I think like around this time it was like a depression in England going on, like monetary so money was tight.

He's got five kids. Yeah, well if you have mid seventies. I mean it was that way in the US for sure. I mean, like the whole gas crisis of the seventies was in the US, so I would imagine it was something similar like that in the UK. So, you know, one of the kind of questions that I had written

down here is do you you know, like in your studies, what you've encountered, things that you've seen, do you feel like it was demonic possession or do you think it was just mental illness? Oh? This case, I think is one hundred percent mental illness. And I think he was pushed in that direction with

everything that happened and everything leading up to it and everything, and like faith is a scary thing sometimes And if he's believing that he's possessed, yeah, like he's just going to drive you insane. And he's basically in an echo chamber, yeah, and reassured all the time. Yes, you're possessed. These things are real,

they can possess you. Your actions are not your own, so on and so forth. You know, Like, and I believe, like the reason he murdered his wife is that he believed she had demons in her and that was the only way to get them out of the mouth, and and things like that,

like that he lost his mind. Now do I think he should have been released two years later? Now? Now? I like, like, even if he's doing well in the in the psychiatric hospital, like if he's you know, quote unquote doing well, I just like, I don't know, I

feel like somebody like this, you know, should at least at a minimum be required And maybe he did. I don't have this in my details, but maybe he was required to you know, still in like an outpatient program participate for some period of time. I don't really know how the the law and the court system worked in

the UK versus the US. Yeah, I know that's often the case in the US of Like, if you're you know, uh, retained by a psychiatric you know, like an internal thing or what's it called inpatient, even when you are quote unquote released, you're still required to go to outpatient stuff. The thing that I think, no you can get the

thing that I think really bothers me about this and I it's just this this whole notion that somehow like how much faith, like I understand having faith in a spiritual belief for having faith in a religious practice, but how much of that faith is then just kind of automatically filtered down to the people within the faith, like

the clergy or you know, a deacon or anybody like because when you, like, when you look at some of those people, like you could literally come off of the street, have a desire to be something more in a faith, work your way into that position within the church, and now you command great reverence without really providing anything to

anybody that that you've earned that. Yeah, and like, and it's not just within traditional religions. I mean, we we see this with New Age stuff. There are people in New Age circles who who command this, you know, respect and reverence, but really haven't provided a lot of bonafides to support that claim. Yep, you know, I mean, like, sorry,

go ahead. No, just I was agreeing with you. It's just just a wild what people will believe in easily. Well, and like I I do dowsing rod stuff, you know, when I help people work through things, and I always have like a really hard time, and I will include

a disclaimer oftentimes to say, hey, whatever I give you is not for you to then just take and go follow. It's for you to to kind of review it, discern, talk with somebody, you know, see what others like. You know. But there's always that concern that, like you know, somebody's gonna ask me a question, and dowsing rods are going

to say yes for something or no for something, They're going to take that as a stamp of approval and go out and do something that ruins their lives or somebody else's life. And that kind of stuff just weighs really heavily on me. And I just wonder, you know, if that kind of thing weighs heavily on people that

are in more traditional, you know, faith settings. Yeah. Well, something I think about too that's extra scary was. There were five kids. Yeah that could have been at home, but luckily they were sent to their grandparents or wherever.

And if they had been home, would the kids have lost their lives? Yeah, that's what scares me the most. Yeah, I mean that's you know, and like the fact that they basically, you know, these kids lost their mother in a very gruesome, horrible way, and the fact that, like, I'm glad I don't think this case has spawned a movie.

Is that correct? No, It's been mentioned, uh and kind of used in things, but not been the main focus. Okay, so at least the five kids don't have the pop culture you know, kind of reference the head. Yeah, it's it's not a conjuring film.

Right uh. Yeah. Anyway, so, like it. Was mentioned in the third Conjuring movie because it the third Conjuring movies, The Devil Made Me Do It Conjuring, the one about the guy that used that case to say the devil made him do it. Yeah, this was the second case around the same time, saying the Devil

made me do it. And actually that uh the Devil Maye do Week case that was the Arnie Johnson Is that right? Yeah? I think so, yeah, so yeah, I mean this, this case I think predates that Arnie Johnson case by like

six years or so, seven years ago. Yeah, they're they're not far from each other, but yeah, you. Know it just I guess you know. The takeaway for me and this case and many others like it is that, like, if there's one word that could sum up a way to have prevented some of this from happening, it would

be discernment. Like if somebody had been in a position to pull him aside and be like, dude, I don't know if the stuff that you're getting from this prayer group is really helping you. Yeah, well get so get this. So I did some research onto where is Michael Taylor today?

Yep, right, nobody knows where he is. But he did pop up in twenty fifteen in the news cycle again because he got caught being indecent doing indecent behavior towards a young girl and he faced the law for this and again managed to somehow get away with it and was given community service. So he you know,

whatever he did with this little girl or tried to whatever he got out of it. But I know the one thing he has said was that since then he's tried to commit suicide at least four times and just just different things. But yeah, nobody knows where he's at. He'd be about eighty years old today, so you know.

The other thing is is you know, and I'll just this may not go over well, but I'll just say that I agree that there are dark energies, right. I mean, I've I've definitely experienced with stuff that's like not as it and not as it's attached to a person, but just some stuff that has come in my life that

has been negative, low vibration, whatever. Sure, but I think that it's a it's a very slippery slope. If you if anybody tells someone who is doing, you know, horrible things, that they're possessed by a demon and so therefore their actions are not their own because it basically gives them an escape, right, it's a get out of jail free card.

In this guy's case, literally that he you know that that you're able to say, well, it's not me doing it, it's these demons. I'm possessed by these demons. So you know, we have to we have to hold people accountable and give them the treatment that they need in a non spiritual religious way. You can include spiritual assistance along with

psychological expense, you know, assistance, but it should never be replaced. Yeah. And and what sucks too is that you know, the the priests, you know, the priests and the Methodist pastor and all them, they were all on trial as well, essentially. And nothing happened to them. So I mean, he didn't lose his his commission, like,

he didn't lose anything, I know, And that's the sad part. And all that really happened is the group broke up. Yeah, the group broke up. That's it. Nobody faced any repercussions, none, except not not even like what he needed to. But I mean, I you know, I don't know what the what the you know,

time of act whatever it's called, where you can go back and do things after the fact. But like, if anything, I would think that these people would be open to a civil case because of things that they just took it upon themselves to do. But you know, you know, going back to our youth group days, you know, there

were times we were in prayer groups. You know, I'm sure you remember, and we were asked to pray things and we were you know, but like, you know, that's what you just gotta be really careful because sometimes you think you're doing a good thing, especially again if you're in that echo chamber of situation and all of your

your people around you are telling you, this is the thing we need to do. You know, if you ever find your if anybody ever finds themselves in that situation, my best advice to you is to go to somebody who you know is not religious and explain to them what's happening and ask their opinion. Yeah, and see if

they give you the same response that your people in your group are saying. And you know, they don't have to necessarily follow what they say, but just see if they give you the same response, and if they're like, dude, that's fed up. Take that, you know, evaluate that, see if that's really, you know, what you need to be doing.

Well, because prayer is essentially, at the end of the day, a form of energy exchange, and all these people praying for you, saying all these things, and you've. Got your psychic shield up for grabs, so to speak, right then all that energy is just coming at you, and that that I could see that happening to Michael Taylor.

I could see that all that energy of all those people thinking that he's possessed and. Evil and all of these things putting evil energy into him. So well, we've I remember we talked about it in a couple of you know, several episodes back. There was a word in the Psychic Dictionary Encyclopedia there that talked

about getting a large group people together, them all kind of thinking about and focusing on the same thing, and the energy kind of well up. That happens in that situation. So then if you know, if that happens just in general, like you know, you know, I always picture like the praise band stuff we used to do, you know, all

this stuff. But if that is all then focused at a specific person, you know, it's like shooting a thousand arrows at somebody and then you know, that person thinking that they can dodge every single one of them. Yeah, right, So. Anyways, it's it is a really tough case. I feel,

you know, of course, horrible for the kids. I feel horrible for Christine. I mean, the freaking dog. I mean, you know, it probably did nothing. Yeah, and I want. To recommend, you know, if you're really interested in a deep dive into this case, there's a great podcast called

The Devil Within and I think it's the first season and it's first or second season, but it's the Demons of. Yorkshire and it is a deep dive into this case. And I highly recommend anybody that wants to go a little further to check that out and listen to that. That's the research where I did and it's phenomenal. So

I highly recommend a deep dive by going to that. It's on Spotify, it's on iTunes, all that stuff. Not a sponsor, but just a deep dive. Yeah. And then just you know, one last thing I'll say if if anybody is listening to this, if you feel just horrible, you feel down, and you feel like

you're you know, being attacked, if you feel like whatever, and you just life is hard, I encourage you to call nine to eight eight from your phone, which is the suicide and Crisis Hotline and talk to somebody and they can help you get in touch with people. Yeah, so you know, no one, no one is beyond help. Yep.

I agree, Hey, yep. On that note, I guess it's time to go home and get and go. Hug my kid. Yeah, my wife hug my kid before we go. Josh, you want to let them know about our new ad.

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the ads, you know what, uh, you know, we try to make them not as intrusive, but yeah, it was just like, oh man, I wish this didn't have ads. Sprecker. You look for the show seven hours a month, ad free, YEP. Ad free, and either way it helps us out. So whether you listen to the ads or go ad.

Free helps us out. So we appreciate you all so much. We love our listeners. We love you guys so much across the world, so appreciate it. So Josh, let's go ahead and get out of here. Man, great job today. Like I said, I'm gonna go hug my wife and my kid.

Yeah, really so. But let's go ahead and get out of here. Sorry for the for the low for the low feeling episode, but the next one will be high energy. Let's let's put it that one. Yeah, we'll do that, and remember shield up.

Don't leave your energy up for grabs, folks. But anyways, let's go ahead and get out of here. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Shadow Signal podcast. I've been Stefan reminding you to stay in the shadow and listen for the signal, and. This has been Josh. The truth is now.

Goodnight, folks. We'll see on the next one. Good night, Jesus, Jesus, Shields up, Shields up, flight those shields and full power Expecto patronum